Anyone using BLOX Turbo Cams?
10-07-2004, 06:29 PM
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I just ordered my Blox turbo cams. I hope to have good luck w/ them. I will be using full ferrea valves, valvesprings and retainers. Hopefully they'll work well w/ each other. I may be stupid and try to dyno them vs stock GSR cams. It won't be for a while. I'm waiting on Headgames to do my headwork. They say it won't be until around SEMA time.
10-07-2004, 11:36 PM
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I don't know if I should shell out even more $$ and get Valvepsrings and Retainers. I think stock valvetrain might be fine with stock Redline...
10-08-2004, 12:51 AM
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yah, but the more aggresive profile of the cams, mainly the lift, might put a little more stress on the stock valvetrain, even with stock redline...key word is might...who knows, maybe the stock valvetrain will be fine, but it would be a costly error if something ends up breaking.
10-08-2004, 09:53 AM
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I already have my ferrea stuff so I'm just going to do it plus the head will be fully redone by headgames. Might as well for a little added security.
10-08-2004, 10:17 AM
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Anyone recommend particular Valvesprings and Retainers?
I had Skunk2 ones awhile back, but I kept hearing bad things about their retainers. Let a nukka know!
I had Skunk2 ones awhile back, but I kept hearing bad things about their retainers. Let a nukka know!
10-08-2004, 10:26 AM
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doesnt blox have a dealer support program, or someone to answer questions when the dealers dont know the answer?
honestly it kinda worries me that a dealer of a product looks to h-t or any other forum for answers when they dont even know, but they are supposed to be selling this to people.
what if joe schmoe has a question and you dont know, do you just post on h-t for an answer? how do you even know the advice you get on here is correct?
honestly it kinda worries me that a dealer of a product looks to h-t or any other forum for answers when they dont even know, but they are supposed to be selling this to people.
what if joe schmoe has a question and you dont know, do you just post on h-t for an answer? how do you even know the advice you get on here is correct?
10-08-2004, 11:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doesnt blox have a dealer support program, or someone to answer questions when the dealers dont know the answer?
honestly it kinda worries me that a dealer of a product looks to h-t or any other forum for answers when they dont even know, but they are supposed to be selling this to people.
what if joe schmoe has a question and you dont know, do you just post on h-t for an answer? how do you even know the advice you get on here is correct?
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We have answers from BLOX themselves, but some feedback from regular customers who had esperience with these porducts since they're a New Brand. It doesn't hurt to have feedback from customers.
honestly it kinda worries me that a dealer of a product looks to h-t or any other forum for answers when they dont even know, but they are supposed to be selling this to people.
what if joe schmoe has a question and you dont know, do you just post on h-t for an answer? how do you even know the advice you get on here is correct?
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We have answers from BLOX themselves, but some feedback from regular customers who had esperience with these porducts since they're a New Brand. It doesn't hurt to have feedback from customers.
10-08-2004, 12:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00ST2nR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
We have answers from BLOX themselves, but some feedback from regular customers who had esperience with these porducts since they're a New Brand. It doesn't hurt to have feedback from customers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well considering they are a new brand. I would doubt anyone even has experience with them yet.
espicially the turbo cams where its proven that gsr or itr cams will make power, and the power of an FI engine is usually not limited by the cams.
We have answers from BLOX themselves, but some feedback from regular customers who had esperience with these porducts since they're a New Brand. It doesn't hurt to have feedback from customers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
well considering they are a new brand. I would doubt anyone even has experience with them yet.
espicially the turbo cams where its proven that gsr or itr cams will make power, and the power of an FI engine is usually not limited by the cams.
10-08-2004, 12:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00ST2nR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone recommend particular Valvesprings and Retainers?
I had Skunk2 ones awhile back, but I kept hearing bad things about their retainers. Let a nukka know!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rocket baby
I had Skunk2 ones awhile back, but I kept hearing bad things about their retainers. Let a nukka know!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rocket baby
10-08-2004, 12:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
well considering they are a new brand. I would doubt anyone even has experience with them yet.
espicially the turbo cams where its proven that gsr or itr cams will make power, and the power of an FI engine is usually not limited by the cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're right, but it doesn't hurt to see if anyone has them right? And Honda-Tech has alot of members who are into performance obviously, and I've been here for awhile now... it would be obvious to try posting it here.
And yep. Stock GS-R and ITR cams have been proven to make good power... but I would only think it would give better gains if I got Turbo cams which have Higher lift and low duration. More power baby!
well considering they are a new brand. I would doubt anyone even has experience with them yet.
espicially the turbo cams where its proven that gsr or itr cams will make power, and the power of an FI engine is usually not limited by the cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're right, but it doesn't hurt to see if anyone has them right? And Honda-Tech has alot of members who are into performance obviously, and I've been here for awhile now... it would be obvious to try posting it here.
And yep. Stock GS-R and ITR cams have been proven to make good power... but I would only think it would give better gains if I got Turbo cams which have Higher lift and low duration. More power baby!
10-09-2004, 11:26 AM
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Peak HP doesn't mean too much. I've seen Turbo cams give fatter gains under the line, which is what I really want.
And again, we all know stock cams are great for Turbo applications and they have been proven to make good power. But it's pretty common sense that if you add cams with Higher lift, you'll gain more power. I want to squeeze out as much power as I can with my setup.
And again, we all know stock cams are great for Turbo applications and they have been proven to make good power. But it's pretty common sense that if you add cams with Higher lift, you'll gain more power. I want to squeeze out as much power as I can with my setup.
10-12-2004, 02:49 AM
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yup squeeze all them whp out.......i will have blox turbo cams installed by this weekend....hehehe dyno graphs shall be posted on this tread stay tuned......
old setup....
2.0liter gsr 9.8:1
stock Civic Type R head
with Civic Type R cams
stock cam gears
aebs intake manifold
CTR crank pulley
332whp/228lbs of torque
at 12psi
tuned with hondata and 680cc injectors
2.0 liter gsr 10:1 due to R head milled
custom competition port and polish
jg elebrock intake manifold
blox turbo cams
jg elebrock gold cam gears
itr crank pulley
???whp/???lbs of torque
at 12psi and thinkin about 1 bar
same mangement
tuned by lawerence tsi at dynosportracing.com
old setup....
2.0liter gsr 9.8:1
stock Civic Type R head
with Civic Type R cams
stock cam gears
aebs intake manifold
CTR crank pulley
332whp/228lbs of torque
at 12psi
tuned with hondata and 680cc injectors
2.0 liter gsr 10:1 due to R head milled
custom competition port and polish
jg elebrock intake manifold
blox turbo cams
jg elebrock gold cam gears
itr crank pulley
???whp/???lbs of torque
at 12psi and thinkin about 1 bar
same mangement
tuned by lawerence tsi at dynosportracing.com
10-12-2004, 02:00 PM
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^^
BTW, I got my Supertech Valve Springs and Retainers in today. Thanks to Jason and Earl, I got these for a SUPER CHEAP price.
BTW, I got my Supertech Valve Springs and Retainers in today. Thanks to Jason and Earl, I got these for a SUPER CHEAP price.
10-15-2004, 12:32 PM
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Re: (B00ST2nR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00ST2nR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Got the BLOX Turbo Cams today. High lift, Low duration.
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10-15-2004, 12:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00ST2nR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You're right, but it doesn't hurt to see if anyone has them right? And Honda-Tech has alot of members who are into performance obviously, and I've been here for awhile now... it would be obvious to try posting it here.
And yep. Stock GS-R and ITR cams have been proven to make good power... but I would only think it would give better gains if I got Turbo cams which have Higher lift and low duration. More power baby!</TD></TR></TABLE>
You don't want to decimate how much duration there is in a camshaft! If you knock the duration down to sub SI levels, you are going to stop making power at like 7 grand, and not maximize how much power your motor can make. Cammotion just ground a friend a custom ground cam for his turbo project, it's a 387" SBF (4.08 x 3.7) that we are going to turn to around 7500 RPM's. The cam? 249/238 @ .050, .698/.666 lift .015 hot lash. 249 degrees of duration @ .050. A stock 5 litre mustang cam has about 200 degrees of duration @ .050. There is a solid amount of overlap in this cam, about 15 degrees. But no, overlap is bad, you want to decrease duration or it won't make power, no overlap, no overlap, right? Turbo cam's arn't just about knocking down the duration, there's a good blend of enough duration and enough lift.
You're right, but it doesn't hurt to see if anyone has them right? And Honda-Tech has alot of members who are into performance obviously, and I've been here for awhile now... it would be obvious to try posting it here.
And yep. Stock GS-R and ITR cams have been proven to make good power... but I would only think it would give better gains if I got Turbo cams which have Higher lift and low duration. More power baby!</TD></TR></TABLE>
You don't want to decimate how much duration there is in a camshaft! If you knock the duration down to sub SI levels, you are going to stop making power at like 7 grand, and not maximize how much power your motor can make. Cammotion just ground a friend a custom ground cam for his turbo project, it's a 387" SBF (4.08 x 3.7) that we are going to turn to around 7500 RPM's. The cam? 249/238 @ .050, .698/.666 lift .015 hot lash. 249 degrees of duration @ .050. A stock 5 litre mustang cam has about 200 degrees of duration @ .050. There is a solid amount of overlap in this cam, about 15 degrees. But no, overlap is bad, you want to decrease duration or it won't make power, no overlap, no overlap, right? Turbo cam's arn't just about knocking down the duration, there's a good blend of enough duration and enough lift.
10-15-2004, 12:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chip »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You don't want to decimate how much duration there is in a camshaft! If you knock the duration down to sub SI levels, you are going to stop making power at like 7 grand, and not maximize how much power your motor can make. Cammotion just ground a friend a custom ground cam for his turbo project, it's a 387" SBF (4.08 x 3.7) that we are going to turn to around 7500 RPM's. The cam? 249/238 @ .050, .698/.666 lift .015 hot lash. 249 degrees of duration @ .050. A stock 5 litre mustang cam has about 200 degrees of duration @ .050. There is a solid amount of overlap in this cam, about 15 degrees. But no, overlap is bad, you want to decrease duration or it won't make power, no overlap, no overlap, right? Turbo cam's arn't just about knocking down the duration, there's a good blend of enough duration and enough lift.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good info, but you know what I was talkin about.
You don't want to decimate how much duration there is in a camshaft! If you knock the duration down to sub SI levels, you are going to stop making power at like 7 grand, and not maximize how much power your motor can make. Cammotion just ground a friend a custom ground cam for his turbo project, it's a 387" SBF (4.08 x 3.7) that we are going to turn to around 7500 RPM's. The cam? 249/238 @ .050, .698/.666 lift .015 hot lash. 249 degrees of duration @ .050. A stock 5 litre mustang cam has about 200 degrees of duration @ .050. There is a solid amount of overlap in this cam, about 15 degrees. But no, overlap is bad, you want to decrease duration or it won't make power, no overlap, no overlap, right? Turbo cam's arn't just about knocking down the duration, there's a good blend of enough duration and enough lift.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good info, but you know what I was talkin about.
10-29-2004, 07:51 PM
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Does anybody have numbers on these cams yet? I might be interested in a set for the GSR but I'm a little skeptical untill I see firsthand proof vs. say a set of GSR cams that these things are really worth while
10-29-2004, 09:31 PM
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I wouldn't use any camshaft with my oem valvetrain that has a steeper ramp angle. The springs are not meant to compress faster than they allready do (sounds a lot like revving the motor higher).
10-30-2004, 12:19 PM
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If you guys check out the new DSport magazine, there's a Turbo hatch in there using BLOX Turbo cams that put out 400+wHP on Pump gas.