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Old 10-17-2009, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by turbociv910
Dynapack dyno owners can/do inflate their numbers.
O RLY?
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Is that backwards?

I guess anyone with a dyno can probably program in a lot of stuff, but it seems to me like everyone without a DynoJet markets the fact that their dyno reads lower, and is therefore more valuable. FWIW, I think that's crap, and I'd buy a DynoJet--Big numbers FTW! Haha. . .
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I forgot to update this thread last week. The kid crashed his car. He smashed a curb on the driver side, ripped the wheel in half and the axle put a hole in the tranny. I only have one shot on my camera that shows his car, I was only taking pics of my build. The bumper and fenders off. Ill get a pic of the wheel, they were sick till he destroyed them. Ive some motor shots too, sick set up for sure.

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His is fully built. Mine is sleeved, and built. Here's one shot of my ride torn apart. Both should be ready within 2 weeks. Maybe we'll just settle it on the streets cuz he seems to be all talk! My car is 500 pounds less than his and Ill have 500whp on E85. Sucka!

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Settle it on the dyno where you can win your easy money!
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by Tjabo
Settle it on the dyno where you can win your easy money!
Haha, do both! Dyno first, then run him down on the street!

OP, are those tires BFG KDW's on your DC?
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Right on! Well, maybe the track after the dyno, as opposed to the street after the dyno. . . These are some pretty fast cars! ;-)
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

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You are seriously the most **** obsessive individual on this earth, you do nothing but troll FS threads and tell people what their parts are worth and correct people on grammer.... do you have anything technical to contribute to this site?? I have yet to see it.......

I know exactly what h.a.r.t. was refering to by replying with the word "this" apparently you dont.
nor does he use the correct context/spelling of you're
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

i guess it depends on what "30r" your talking about. im sure all you dsm/evo guys know who evil_eagle is (jake) he is local to me, here is what he says about his setup on our local forum...he is running a "gt3082r AKA FP 3065 with .82 a/r Tial exhaust housing"



Originally Posted by evil_eagle
Well, I don't like to bench "dyno" lol. But the AEM dyno math logs are fairly accurate. It was within 5whp when I was on the dyno awhile back when I was on the stock turbo.
My 10.95 pass was with only 21lbs on the stock motor, logs showed 540ish whp then. The stroker is up well over that now considering the extra .3L more plus another 8-10lbs of boost.
Anyway, both of our cars average WHP on the AEM dyno math logs at 675-680whp. Last week when it dropped down into the lower 40 temps I seen mine shoot to 695whp and 602wtq. It may not be 100% accurate, but I've always been pretty close with my assumptions from the data I gather from both my car and Nate's.
So it's more along the lines close to 1400whp between both of us lol.
Originally Posted by evil_eagle
Thought you guys would find this interesting, did some more tuning tonight with more boost, 32-33lbs and some timing tuning. Was able to get another 50-55whp out of it on average.
When I raced Nate, it was at 660whp on 29lbs 650whp average through out the run.
Kinda hard to see but look at the average numbers in the data box

Peak whp is 711
peak wtq is 565
average whp through out the gear is 701whp
average wtq through out the gear is 528wtq
Not saying these numbers are 100% accurate, but from my testing when I was on the dyno it was within 5-7whp and 5-8wtq.
Either way, it's a good tool to use to see if your going in the right direction.
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

NO 30n R is capable of flowing enough air on its own to make the claimed HP.

Kick him in the ****ing twigpussy for trying to insult your intelligence whilst drunk....
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lol i believe him...we are talking about the same guy that went 8.6's at well over 160mph in his old talon. he knows his **** and many people on her can vouch.
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by fast2camciv
lol i believe him...we are talking about the same guy that went 8.6's at well over 160mph in his old talon.
No joke!?!?!?!? WOW!
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by Tjabo
No joke!?!?!?!? WOW!
i dont buy it at all... i know how to read a compressor map, and have done enough around various itterations of that turbo and call bullshit
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by fast2camciv
i guess it depends on what "30r" your talking about. im sure all you dsm/evo guys know who evil_eagle is (jake) he is local to me, here is what he says about his setup on our local forum...he is running a "gt3082r AKA FP 3065 with .82 a/r Tial exhaust housing"
have to agree there are a lot of different specs and different gt30's he could have. 650 imo is a long shot on even themost developed gt30's out there but i wouldn't count it out like stated jake is running one on his talon and ran 10's with it in his evo but then again his housing and entire kit were custom made and Jake knows a **** ton bout DSM's so i would say your probably safe but i wouldn't say its impossible
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by extralargenog
NO 30n R is capable of flowing enough air on its own to make the claimed HP.

Kick him in the ****ing twigpussy for trying to insult your intelligence whilst drunk....
STFU douche Jake is one of the smartest guys i know when it comes to cars not only that but he had one of the fastest Dsm's in the country last year and his stock block evo ran 10's on a gt30. You should probably do a little more research before you say its impossible and bash on someone you don't even know
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Originally Posted by pettyboy69
STFU douche Jake is one of the smartest guys i know when it comes to cars not only that but he had one of the fastest Dsm's in the country last year and his stock block evo ran 10's on a gt30. You should probably do a little more research before you say its impossible and bash on someone you don't even know


Yawn.


Stock block evo running tens huh? Yawn again. Maybe YOU should do some rersearch.


By the way ****tard... Its honda-tech not my bnoyfriends evo makes 832678357328753287 WHPzzzz when im not swinging on his nuts. Nowhere did I say he doesnt know his ****... But I have a little bit of an Idea what Im talking about too, and call BULLSHIT on a 30 R making the claimed power.... at LEAST wiythout some sort of additional adder. Unless on some dream dyno that Id sure like to get my pile of **** on so that I could toss over inflated dyno numbers(that mean about nothing) around on here too...


Either way if you think it, it MUST be true.


Have a blessed day
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by TylerB


I have no idea if its legit, just found it cruising google images...
-Not My Graph-

edit: Im assuming its a gt30r from the website link (http://advancedstreetperformance.com...18c1-Gt30R.jpg)
Intecs dyno is KNOWN to be just such a friendly dyno around here too... Weve compafred it to a couple other Dynojets and found that it was pretty friendly ;O)
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by turbociv910
dyno dyno dyno.

thats the question.

Dynapack dyno owners can/do inflate their numbers.

Go to a Dynojet for more "standard" real numbers.


This

(Dont forget Mustangs are consistant too)




ILL BUY 520-550 (Seen it)... Maybe even 560-575 when turned into a hair dryer so far out of their efficiency range that they cant even hold boost...

But 650????
HAHAHAH


I can only LOL......
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Originally Posted by extralargenog
ILL BUY 520-550 (Seen it)... Maybe even 560-575 when turned into a hair dryer so far out of their efficiency range that they cant even hold boost...

But 650????
HAHAHAH


I can only LOL......
I agree. And besides. The original argument is whether or not THIS particular Evo in question in this thread will make 650 whp.

Bench dynoing FTL.
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

A GT3082R uses a GT40 Compressor wheel (same as the SC61, GT3540, etc) and the smaller 84trim exhaust wheel. It is VERY stretched to even come close to 650whp, but it has a better chance (although slim) than the understood 76.2mm exducer smaller compressor wheel.
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im not gonna sit here and argue about it. i do know he has dyno'd his car on Bullydogs AWD dyno, and the AEM readings where VERY close to the wheel horsepower. i also know that in this video

[youtube]pNcSpj0Z_lQ[/youtube]

he is very even to another evo he built with a 35r, running more boost....the silver evo that jake beats, has also trapped 138mph bogging 2nd gear down to 2200rpm (per the logs) both of these are full weight evo's so doing the math makes the 700 awhp claims legit. i really dont care what you guys "think" it can do, the PROOF is right here.
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
A GT3082R uses a GT40 Compressor wheel (same as the SC61, GT3540, etc) and the smaller 84trim exhaust wheel. It is VERY stretched to even come close to 650whp, but it has a better chance (although slim) than the understood 76.2mm exducer smaller compressor wheel.
Shodan:

The 40 doesnt use a 61mm inducer compressor wheel last I looked so its surely not an sc61 of any nomenclature ive seen??? Im assuming the GT3540 has the 4088 wheel in it???


4088 63.5mm 88.0mm
4094 67.8mm 94.0mm

still that seems like a really mismatched combo un;ess it were to be fitted with the P trim ex wheel and a T4 ex cover :O)



but again... the 61mm sc61/pt61 or 3582r (actually any variant of he 61mm comp wheel) is about done (at least in its happy place)at the 630=650 level. I madew 630 on a pt6176, but the compressor was donezo,


thoughts?
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awesome info.. *looking forward to 550@whells on my FP *HTA gt30... *thx.
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Default Re: 650whp on a 30r??

Originally Posted by Silva Bullit DC4
Haha, do both! Dyno first, then run him down on the street!

OP, are those tires BFG KDW's on your DC?
Yeah we may just have to do both. Yes, right now im running KDWs. I plan to switch to 235/60/15 ET street radials to help with traction.


Originally Posted by fast2camciv
i guess it depends on what "30r" your talking about. im sure all you dsm/evo guys know who evil_eagle is (jake) he is local to me, here is what he says about his setup on our local forum...he is running a "gt3082r AKA FP 3065 with .82 a/r Tial exhaust housing"
He is not running the gt3082, Im 99% sure its the same as mine. A gt3076r.

The numbers that guy is claiming are huge, Im just not sure about that.


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