S@nt0s

makes perfect sense compare timeslips, thw rwd have the first half advantage but if a FWD has the light th rwd has to catch up and pass but if both cars are the same on the back half they wont catch them.

I love and prefer heads up but its a game and you have to beon point with your dial fast or slow

Twenty47

Again your post makes no sense.


Whoever has a better reaction time and come closer to their dial wins there is no magic to this.


If one car runs 8.3 @ 180 and the other runs 7.9 at 160 then the 7 sec car is gonna catch the other car fast and start lose ground by the end. The winner fits the criteria I just mentioned.

2fastGSR

I think we will continue to see the sport grow, slowly.

I personally believe it will grow as all of the racers and fans grow older. The target audience for our sport is still 18- mid 20s. When I was that young I spent all my money on beers and slutty women. I couldnt afford a race car. Then I bought a home and was house poor for a few years.
Now I'm older and wiser with my money and can afford to race.
Look at all the racers in NHRA sportsman classes. There aren't any 18-25 year olds that are racing there on their own dime.

We will eventually get to the point where all of these classes start coming back because we will have the finances to build the cars that we thought were dream cars 10 years ago.

S@nt0s

no it doesnt whoever gets there first without breaking out wins and its both are going the same rate on the back half the "slower dial" will win.

i wont go on and off track this topic, you clearly dont see my point which makes perfect sense

Twenty47

Your scenario doesn't exist. They won't be neck and neck ever unless it's at the finish line. The quicker car will pass and then lose if there is that big of a gap in mph


This is simple math.

car A dials 7.80
Car B dials 8.50

Both cars cut .010 lights

Whatever car runs closer to that dial will win this is not disputable. It's elementary math/ physics. Doesn't matter if there is a 100mph trap difference.

If the quicker but slower car can't catch the ther at the end they are either further from their dial or got tree'd

Twenty47

I think you are picturing two cars that back half the same bug one 60 foots better. If their back half times were identical whoever got the better reaction time would be ahead by the 1/8th given they run their exact dials.

nsxmatt

You two going back and forth shows why bracket racing sucks. Drag racing is pulling to the line, both lights turning green AT THE SAME TIME and the winner being the one at the end first. Granted I still do bracket race when it's the only thing at an event I can compete in, and I do well, but in a manual trans FWD car it's about the worst thing you could do.

S@nt0s

yes i dont like bracket racing heads up or nothing,

now what i am somewhat saying is the fast FWD cars have a advantage because their back half is liek that of a car half to a whole second faster but they will already be moving do from the 330to 1/8th mile on its fair game

Twenty47

Bracket racing retarded. I never said it wasn't. I competed in the high school nhra bracket thing at route 66 for 4 years and I used to lose to kids driving their moms pontiac vibes that went like 16.5 every ****ing pass. Never again but that's how I started there was nothing else for me. I remember one kid drove his parents TL and kept getting yelled at for having the AC on and it would leak water on the track and he would do it every run.

SlicksMH

Has anybody heard of the storie book called, the tortoise and the rabbit.

SlicksMH

4piston

LOL @ Jake and his slutty women. I didn't know you knew my wife

*looks over shoulder*

Kevin

T.M.F.T

the problem that's killing import racing,is to many different classes and rules

1 2 NV

yeah i didnt need to go to school on how to win races. i learned by myself. i dig bracket racing because it puts the drivers at even playing field.

however regarding the OT at hand there just isnt enough support to keep the field. even in its hayday it was regularly not a full field. theres a reason the mags went out of business, theres a reason there is no nationwide series anymore.

too many greedy people making promises regarding others money and not coming through.
i remember a member on this board once got donations to get his turbo car up and running and said all the parts were to be sold for charity after the season. its POS like him that F'd this scene up. i mean to use a charity as leverage then pocketing all of it. what a loser.
however, theres a million places to point the fingers.

fast is fun

("however regarding the OT at hand there just isnt enough support to keep the field. even in its hayday it was regularly not a full field. theres a reason the mags went out of business, theres a reason there is no nationwide series anymore.")

in 2004 at pomona there were 26 HR cars for 16 spots and then came GM and money, down hill from there,

why spend 50k to have some one with 100k beat your *** ?

IT'S OVER thank you

MrParks

You guys are like kids high on sugar and have a.d.d were taking about pro cars making a come back. This is exactly what I meant by transition, but in all the wrong ways. Smh.

toyotaturbo

Whenever I go to any NHRA race and watch the Sportsman classes....I can usually count on one hand how many 18-25 year olds I see, regardless of who pays their bills. I do see a lot of 50+ year olds, though.

TimKennard

haha i love this site, i remember why i don't post on here...

ya you missed the point about the class. glad you didn't "need" it. i was just saying there is more to bracket racing than what most people think and people lose to 19 second cars because they aren't playing the game.

anyway, these classes wont come back unless you guys quit crying about "no class" to race in and just go race. brackets, exhibition, test n tune, whatever, just go run your car. more cars out racing builds up the sport. i brought up bracket racing because it gives everyone a chance to race and everyone a chance to win. but instead you guys would rather have a class designed around your car and maybe make 10 hits a year.

if i built a car for 2 events a year i think i'd rather go fishing.

Jerseyfan

Look at the Pan Ams qualifying for team USA over 70 cars from high 6's and up.
You don't hear them complaining about bracket racing. They race thats why they are getting more exposure. The cars that did not qualify for team USA they had a Q32. I know a few FWD cars that would run those Q32 qualifying times. Magazines from Japan, Australia and Latin America were covering the event. If that is not exposure don't know what is. If those Hot Rod or Pro FWD or any competitive fwd would race even bracket it will come back.

BTW: Team PR won the bracket size of PR vs USA with an 8 sec dialing.

1.The Wizard - 6.95 @ 200 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
2. Christopher Racing - 7.04 @ 198 MPH
3. Blue Zone - 7.22 @ 184 MPH
4. X-Men Racing - 7.22 @ 169 MPH
5. El Freddy - 7.23 @ 200 MPH, se rodo en la salida
6. Anais - 7.24 @ 194 MPH
7. El Licenciado - 7.27 @ 188 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
8. Indio Racing - 7.34 @ 187 MPH
9. Santiago Racing - 7.37 @ 181 MPH
10. Tossas Racing - 7.40 @ 188 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
11. Geronimo - 7.42 @ 184 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
12. Jerry Racing - 7.43 @ 187 MPH
13. Turbo Bee - 7.46 @ 168 MPH
14. Dream Machine - 7.48 @ 177 MPH
15 Import DPS - 7.51 @ 179 MPH
16. Big Boy Racing - 7.53 @ 177 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD

-----------------------------------Not Qualyfied-----------------------------------

17. Piolo - 7.55 @ 184 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
18. La Otra - 7.57 @ 182 MPH
19. Lucimar Racing - 7.60 @ 139 MPH
20. Marangeli - 7.67 @ 178 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
21. El Viejo - 7.69 @ 175 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
22.Taash Racing - 7.74 @ 161 MPH
23. Tatiana - 7.77 @ 178 MPH
24. Poncho Racing - 7.77 @ 174 MPH
25. New Karioka - 7.77 @ 171 MPH
26. Hailey - 7.79 @ 140 MPH
27. La Dafne - 7.80 @ 178 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
28. Don Roberto Racing - 7.80 @ 173 MPH
29. Nashira - 7.81 @ 181 MPH
30. New Ayden - 7.84 @ 169 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
31. Rivera Racing - 7.85 @ 171 MPH
32. Lopez Connection - 7.85 @ 170 MPH
33. Torres Connection - 7.86 @ 173 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
34. FR Motorsports - 7.88 @ 170 MPH
35. Frances Racing - 7.89 @ 178 MPH
36. Gabriela Nicole - 7.90 @ 149 MPH
37. Too Fast To Paint - 7.91 @ 172 MPH
38. Scorpion - 7.91 @ 158 MPH
39.Miñaña Rx8 - 7.97 @ 168 MPH
40. The Doctor 1.6 - 7.98 @ 169 MPH
41. Sam Rico - 8.03 @ 159 MPH
42. La Pequeña Turbo - 8.04 @ 169 MPH
43. Doggies Toy - 8.06 @ 174 MPH
44. La Pequeña Melanie - 8.14 @ 167 MPH
45. Rosado Racing Celica - 8.14 @ 123 MPH
46. La Cabecilla - 8.16 segs
47. Naco Racing - 8.19 @ 151 MPH
48. El Mercenario - 8.21 @ 164 MPH
49. La Kiki - 8.24 2 166 MPH NEW PERSONAL RECORD
50. Bonilla Racing - 8.25 @ 157 MPH
51. Ex Malefico Racing - 8.25 @ 151 MPH
52. La Engreida - 8.26 @ 167 MPH
53. La Delincuente - 8.30 @ 166 MPH
54. Freddy Is Back - 8.33 @ 137 MPH
55. Yangelis Racing - 8.41 @ 156 MPH
56. 1.8 Brown - 8.43 @ 162 MPH
57. Sheikra Racing - 8.43 @ 146 MPH
58. El Terror - 8.45 @ 153 MPH
59. Xavy Racing - 8.49 @ 162 MPH
60. Yanira - 8.49 @ 151 MPH
61. Coche Bomba - 8.50 @ 145 MPH
62. New Jessialis - 8.55 @ 182 MPH
63. El Menor - 8.76 @ 145 MPH
64. La Saranana - 8.92 @ 129 MPH
65. Gonzalez Racing - 9.33 @ 148 MPH
66. Caneca Racing - 9.51 @ 160 MPH
67. El **** - 9.51 @ 152 MPH
68. Datsun Rojo - 9.51 @ 127 MPH
69. Tuturu Racing - 9.59 @ 104 MPH
70. Aj Rx7 - 9.95 @ 154 MPH
71. Espinal Motorsports - 10.19 @ 99 MPH
72. Toyota 1.8 - 10.52 @ 113 MPH
73. Desiree Racing - 10.72 @ 85 MPH en Estreno
74. Fanny Racing - 10.88 @ 109 MPH
75. Grisseilie Civic - Problemas
76. La Allien - Problemas
77. Sponge Bob Racing - Problemas
78. Paradise Racing - Problemas
79. La Pulga - Accidente

sportfwddc2

Bracket racing is like the special Olympics of drag racing, i guess at least you get a trophy.

I'm not sure we will ever see the pro cars and pro classes come back like they were 7 years ago but mainly in my opinion because we never solved the problems as a community that ruined it all in the first place. Some blame NHRA some blame Nopi and yes they both played a part in it but we as a racing community allowed things to go on that helped the fall out take place. To this day we still see some of the same things take place.