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Old 11-04-2014, 02:40 PM
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I'm very comfortable tuning hondata, love how its setup. ...however, i feel like i need to start looking at other options but i want something that would make for an easy transition. I looked at the AEM Infinity software and its just not seeming like the way to go. I want to KISS and have the same 'merican increments, etc. Not KPA, and Celsius stuff.

any suggestions? Don't even bother suggesting motec haha.
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Haltech
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You can change the increments in the setup menu
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Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
You can change the increments in the setup menu
Exactly it's an easy change, even AEM V2 has a lot of good options for the price.
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ya i see that in haltec, but i dont in AEM, changing stuff in the tables, etc.
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Default Re: Switching from Hondata to a Fancier one?

Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
I want to KISS and have the same 'merican increments, etc. Not KPA, and Celsius stuff.
I have only briefly played with the Infinity. But, I'm sure you can configure your Units to read PSI, Farhrenheit, AFR etc... I have used AEMPro, AEMTuner and Smanager. I'd be full of shyt if I said AEMPro isn't my favorite.
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Once you go KPA, you never go back!
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just traded in my s300 for a haltech elite. havent used it yet but it seems like its going to be the best bang for the buck out there.
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Fueltech.
Domestic guys are switching to Fueltech and dropping their times A LOT.

FuelTech Ems - High Performance Automotive Equipment - Engine management systems

Download their software and take a look at the samples that comes along with the package.
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Originally Posted by .Christiano.
Fueltech.
Domestic guys are switching to Fueltech and dropping their times A LOT.

FuelTech Ems - High Performance Automotive Equipment - Engine management systems

Download their software and take a look at the samples that comes along with the package.
+1 on this. alot domestic guys running fueltech out of nowhere and picking up.
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
ya i see that in haltec, but i dont in AEM, changing stuff in the tables, etc.

Its under preferences

Love my v2
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someone else told me about fuel tech, and i saw a civic with a big *** fuel tech sticker on it over here at WCF. Gonna check that out too.
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
someone else told me about fuel tech, and i saw a civic with a big *** fuel tech sticker on it over here at WCF. Gonna check that out too.
ive been tuning on hondata, crome,and Neptune for 5 years, just got into the aem about 2 year ago haven't done much on them but its not as bad as i thought it was.

Im a Authorized wholesale distributor for Fuel tech so im around this system all day. most of the cars here are on it except for mine so far.

First time i got my hands on a Fuel tech i was able to get the car running and make a decent map to make a few pulls .Real simple! i might want to say it might even be easier than the s300 it self.
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I tune hondata aem Neptune I have had my hand in a few others I switched from s300 to infinity this year and it has been the best decision ever. Kpa isn't bad it's just reality lol, it can be switched in the software but it's not as easy as some have said you have to write the conversion channel but all the info on how to do it is there. Switching from c to f isn't hard at all though also viewing psi in the log and the grid isn't hard st all just a click away. Once you tune in ve you will never go back.
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from looking at fultech its VE based only and 2Digniton maps only? very simple.. too simple for me, i like being a keyboard warrior wielding my laptop LOL
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Originally Posted by SwappedTURBOegg
from looking at fultech its VE based only and 2Digniton maps only? very simple.. too simple for me, i like being a keyboard warrior wielding my laptop LOL
Actually that depends on what model you're talking about and how you have your software configured.

Old FT models have 2d maps (internally they're 3d interpolated maps, but config is done in 2d) and you have to go to the proper compensation menus in order to do the job, but newer models are 3D.

Also the FT Manager software allows you to build your map in either 3D or 2D modes. If you downloaded the FT Manager software and you're seeing 2D maps, you need go to options and switch your fuel and ignition maps to "Avanced". That will let you build 3d fuel and ignition maps.
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does fuel tech FT300 have any power management like AEM v2?
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We use fuel tech on our formula sae car and it is great. I've played around on hondata a few times and it was very user friendly, and i would have to say that so is fuel tech. Some food for thought, we switched from a motec m600 and did not experience any significant power loss... Now you can do a lot more with motec, but unless you're going to take advantage of those features its not worth it. We are also naturally aspirated so I don't know if there is any of the cool boost by rear wheel speed or g force or what ever all the really fast ppl are using, in fuel tech but it does have boost by rpm in all of the versions. I'd give it a try, its not too pricey compared to some others.
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
does fuel tech FT300 have any power management like AEM v2?
It does, but it's only Boost x RPM control.
If you stick with FT300, you can stack it with the GearController module for ign timing compensation based on wheel speed and then do the trick.

But that's nothing when you chek all the compensations you can put in place if you go FT500.
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Now Fueltech has the quickest and fastest street legal car in the world and the only street legal to run 5s!

bangshift.com/bangshift1320/bangshift1320-drag-race-news/first-5s-larry-larson-runs-5-seconds-street-car-errr-truck/
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Originally Posted by .Christiano.
Now Fueltech has the quickest and fastest street legal car in the world and the only street legal to run 5s!

bangshift.com/bangshift1320/bangshift1320-drag-race-news/first-5s-larry-larson-runs-5-seconds-street-car-errr-truck/
Larry got his truck into the 5s?!?! Holy ****! I knew it was capable. Just had no idea he managed to pull it off!

He is actually now the worlds fastest drag truck in history too! During drag week some euro guys got a truck down to 6.05 or so, so at the time larrys low 6 wasnt enough to be the fastest truck, but now he even has that title.

Worlds fastest street car
Only street car to hit 5s
Fastest truck in drag racing history
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if I switch it will be AEM v2 after working with the software, however, any advice on the boost control stuff in there?
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imo if you go aem v2 youll be downgrading

think of it like this hondata that always works its a stock ecu

aem that sometimes works and when it does its fine, but it mostly does not work. failing drivers and random *** hardware problems.
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ya i don't know about that. From what I see, Series 2 did away with a lot of those electrical issues.
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just last week we were chancing an issue with an evo and aem v2. it was dying on 1 cylinder at idle very strange problem. switched coil driver to another one in the box then the car gets stuck at -17* timing send ecu back to aem they say its fine. (they also say extra coil drive on 6 so we used it) so on a whim we disable coil 6 re phase it and use the 4 normal coils. fixes the problem.

i deal with alot of aem stuff i even had aem v1 in my car for 5 years.(the tune would always randomly change it was horrible and inconstant ruined the car.. i guess when it works its fine but i see so much bullshit with them i do not run any aem products and have since switched to haltech. for the only reason i can use that ecu in both my cars or i would still be on s300v3.


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