djsimm89

ok I am preparing to order a cnc inline staging brake for my car. The car is driven on the street allot that's the only reason i did not get the staging brake with the reservoir. I have searched and searched and think i have came up with the correct way to plumb all of this. I just need some insight on if it is correct or not before i buy all of these fittings and tees and lines.

supplies would be as follows
6- 3AN tube sleeves
6- 3AN Tube Nuts
6- 3AN tee fittings
2- 3AN 3ft lines
2- 1/8 to 3AN 90deg fittings

Picture i made on Paint to show how it will all work tube nuts and sleeves are not shown but they will be going on the original hardline before and after the T fittings. Let me know if this is correct and please don't tell me search I have over and over and have not found anything that i feel comfortable with following for this.

hub_n_hun

That would be the correct way to do it, yep. I just recently put the same staging brake in my 00 civic but ran my lines through the interior as it is strictly for track use and for the simplicity of making the flares. I ended up just making double flares since AN fittings are a little on the pricey side lol. Are you familiar with the bleeding procedure?

djsimm89

no not familiar on the bleeding procedure and what do u mean by double end flares? what fittings did you use for yours if not AN fittings? my understanding (correct me if im wrong) was that when using the 3an sleeves and tube nuts the hard line still had to be double flared?

hub_n_hun

The bleeding procedure is suppose to come with the staging brake (mine didn't, or I threw it out without knowing what it was lol). So using the -3AN sleeves and tube nuts doesn't require a 37* flare? That would be another reason I didn't use AN fittings, not familiar with what works and what doesn't. I believe the size was 3/8" but they were inverted flare nuts, just like the ones used on the existing brake lines.

nonvtecallmotor

You don't need to tee both stock lines for the feed. Its only a filler line.

I wouldn't use an fittings or lines. I would use 3/16" hard lines. Honda uses M10x1.0 threads for brake lines.

hub_n_hun

^ what do you mean by that? Only 2 T's are needed. Isn't that what he has in the diagram? The black lines on either side of the staging brake is the exhaust tunnel, right? lol

If not, then your diagram is wrong. 2 lines run from prop valve to rear brakes, if you cut them in the middle there would be 4 ends. The 2 at the front would go to a T and the 2 from the rear would go to a T. That leaves the existing spot on both T's to go the the staging brake.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense, I suck at explaining things lol.

nonvtecallmotor

No He only needs to cut the stock line 3 times not 4. He only needs 4 tees not 6...

hub_n_hun

Woah woah woah, what? Should only be 2 cuts and 2 tees. Those 2 cuts are the cuts being done to the 2 lines running from front to rear.

vteczone

A diagram would help.

nonvtecallmotor

I'll get right on that

djsimm89

ok im a little confused now i dont see y i only need 2 or 3 tees. i would figure i need to tee the lines going to the rear brakes to feed the staging brake. And 2 tees going out to the rear lines from the staging brake. I was thinking of using hard lines but i cannot find t-fittings in the stock size.

fukenboostin

You need only 2 T's.. Only 1 line needs to be be teed going into staging brake... then a piece of line coming out of the staging brake to a tee which the lines to the rear brakes go into..
You just need a path for the fluid to enter the staging brake and exit so no need for both lines going into the brake need to be cut.. Only after the staging brake both lines going to the rear get cut to go into a tee where the line coming out of the stage brake goes as well

djsimm89

ok i understand what your saying about the line going into the staging brake. As far as the like going out if i do it the way you are saying i would need 3 tees instead of 2. There is only 1 outlet on the staging brake that would need to bee teed so there are 2 outlets and then a tee on each of the rear lines going to the back brakes.

djsimm89

And another reason I am using AN fittings is because I can't seem to find a M10X1.0 tee fitting I searched on summit and can't find one I do keep coming across a 3/16 hard brake line tee but the thread size is 3/8 -24 not sure if that will work

93ericSi

This is what everyone is telling you to do. From the prop valve that splits front and rear you run a single line to the brake (no tee). Then the exit run a single line until you can use a single tee (1 only) then run line to each of the back brakes. When not in use the fluid passes through the hand brake/staging brake so there's no need to run lines directly to you braked like you originally pictured.

This pic was found by doing a two second search for "civic staging brake install" on Google.


*ignore how stupid the front brake diagram is. Just pay attention to the line running to the hand brake.

djsimm89

The prop valve has 2 ports for the rear one left one right where would I be putting the single line? And if I do it this way ill basically be deleting the rear brakes off of the prop valve won't that cause my proportioning (if that's a word) of fluid going from the front and rear brakes to be off?

djsimm89

bump

hub_n_hun

I'm going to run out to my shop and snap a few pics for ya. It may look sloppy but it's temporary until I put my cage in.

hub_n_hun

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3669/1...4fe97080_m.jpg

After hours of trying to upload a pic this is the best I can do lol. Hope it helps.

You can see the 2 lines from the front going to the tee then to the staging brake and then the other tee in front of my shifter has the 2 rear lines going to it and to the side of the staging brake.

hub_n_hun

http://www.flickr.com/photos/113332518@N08/11720828175/

Try this link out. Pic is a bigger.

djsimm89

looked at your pics and they honestly arent helping me i see 2 tees but have no clue where they are coming from or going to. but i am curious on what fittings those are for the hardlines as well as the tee.

vteczone

I'll say just stick to your initial plan.doesnt matter how many T's ( or F's or M's lol) you have. I'm sure it will work just fine.

Boost_allways

This is how it's done folks !

Boost_allways

This is how it's done folks !

stenseltizm

Look over his initial drawing again.

The staging brake will do nothing as he basically has the inlet looped to the outlet, and his standard brakes connected as normal.
His drawing with the 6 tees not work.

Use Boost Always sketch.