DaveF

dancing up on stage showing off your a-hole whiile wearing a thong is much harder than getting a 600+ hp fwd car down the strip in 10 seconds or less.

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

I think everyone is going to be bias'd towards certain rules based on how they want to build their own personal car. If you notice, the fastest guys build to the rules and thats that. No more discussion about it.

I would like to see both the sanctioning bodies adopt the same rules, but I highly doubt it will happen.

Personally, I favor the rules of sport fwd. NHRA has done a great job sticking w/ the "true street car" spirit of the class. The rules are clear and reasoning is clear as well. I like the new rule changes but I am curious to what the turbo limit is going to be. There is quite a large difference between say a 61 and a 70, and an even larger difference between a 70 and a 74. So that should be interesting to see how that turns out.

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seriously sport fwd is dying becasue people cant complete. This class was built for the average guy who drives his street car to come participate. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I do not agree with this at all. The class is still gaining momentum. There is going to be over 100 sport fwd/T4 ready cars by the end of this next season. Problem is..... most people can only afford to build the cars. Traveling with them is the tuff part and unfortunately many people cannot afford/will not be able to do this limiting them to maybe 1-2 races a season.

WillieWillieFast

any news on turbo size?

D-Man

I like to see just one rule change...get rid of the slicks and have everyone run drag radials like a true street class should have.

camp1320.com

NO D-MAN YOU CANT DO THAT OR HONDA-TECH PEOPLE WILL CRY LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.!!!

FUEL CELL ON A STREET CLASS??
OPEN EXHAUST ON STREET CLASS??
GO RUN H/R

bomber

Well you have street stock now. You can't run slicks, but no power adders either.

Other than that its the same as sfwd.

ihaterice

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camp1320.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NO D-MAN YOU CANT DO THAT OR HONDA-TECH PEOPLE WILL CRY LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.!!!

FUEL CELL ON A STREET CLASS??
OPEN EXHAUST ON STREET CLASS??
GO RUN H/R

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now really how much is that going to change the performance of these cars - okay give me a stock fuel tank and a full exhaust, we will still run 9s - so why does that matter at all - the fuel cell is a safety matter as well especially considering these cars are going over 150 mph

and DMan - there is already a class for drag radials call Power Street

camp1320.com

OK SO IF IT DONT MATTER MUCH WHY CHANGE IT.. LEAVE IT ALONE. SHOWS PEOPLE CAN RUN ON STREET TRIM AND GO 9's. WHO ARE YOU I NEVER SEEN YOUR CAR RUN 9's. Its mainly the people that havent run the numbers that complain..

HAHAHA FUEL CELL IS NOT A SAFTEY ISSUE.. JASON HUNT ran 9's at over 150mph and crashed the coupe with stock gas tank.. FACTORY TANKS THE THE MOST SECRUE only one car in life time was unsafe and that was the FORD PINTO back in the days. A fuel cell will crumble faster than a gas tank.. you funny

This is aSPORTMAN STREET CLASS. NOT A PRO HEADS UP FOR CHAMPIONSHIP. THIS WAS ONLY INTENED FOR STREET GUYS FROM LOCAL TRACKS TO COME RUN WHAT THEY BRUNG (NO TRAILER). DAILY DRIVEN CARS BUT NOW WE CAN SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

the new street tier class is for ALLMOTOR ONLY..!!

D-Man

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and DMan - there is already a class for drag radials call Power Street </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah,I know about that nopi class..thanks.

ihaterice

you know what I think the funniest thing is

the people that cry the most about the rules, etc here are the individuals that don't even run the whole series - they may run a local event here and there but they dont' travel the circuit

what makes you guys so special to give your two cents on how the rules should be changed - if the rules change are you going to bring your cars out for the full season?

jdkindle

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camp1320.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> WHO ARE YOU I NEVER SEEN YOUR CAR RUN 9's. Its mainly the people that havent run the numbers that complain..

HAHAHA FUEL CELL IS NOT A SAFTEY ISSUE.. JASON HUNT ran 9's at over 150mph and crashed the coupe with stock gas tank.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You obviously do not go to the races then.....that is the owner of one of the handful of cars that have actually run nines....the white coupe

I'm sure if it was legal in NHRA, Jason would run a fuel cell, but on that one I could be talking out of my ***......however slight the advantage, the racers did not make the rules; they just follow them

camp1320.com

The class is a sportman class. this is not for people to run the whole series. The class was made for local guys to come run there street cars instead of racing brackets. I think i started that above.

Im no one special all im saying is if you want to keep it a sportman street class leave it along. As alot of people said NHRA have the best rules for sportman racing.

oh and your going off topic. It was about the mufflers you said it will run 9's with or without the mufflers so what does it matter if its ON. AGAIN this is not a pro class. SPORTMAN STREET CLASS&gt; if you wanna see cars with fuel cells and no mufflers go watch hot rod.

camp1320.com

NO I DONT GO TO NOPI RACES MUCH.. OBVIOUSLY HE DOENST RUN NHRA. HOTROD CLASS ALLOWS FUEL CELL AND OPEN EXHAUST.. tell him to run PRO IMPORT OR H/R. OTHER WISE I THINK HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT RUNS WITH A FUEL CELL.

camp1320.com

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i think this answers the fuel cell quesiton. thanks jason

camp1320.com

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as much as i try not to be partial to any of the sanctioning bodies, i really think NHRA's rules are the closest to what the spirit of this class is and should be about. i doubt limiting turbo size would help anyone in the end. actually, it would make it harder for alot of the present cars to stay competative.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would have to agree. just me 2 lil cents

ihaterice

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camp1320.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NO I DONT GO TO NOPI RACES MUCH.. OBVIOUSLY HE DOENST RUN NHRA. HOTROD CLASS ALLOWS FUEL CELL AND OPEN EXHAUST.. tell him to run PRO IMPORT OR H/R. OTHER WISE I THINK HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT RUNS WITH A FUEL CELL.

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i choose not to run NHRA cause the NHRA could give 2 Sh*ts about the sportsman racers - why do i want to support a series that doesn't care about me

we all know there are complaints about the NDRA series as well but at least they make an effort to cater to the sportsman racers, they offered us a points championship for the year that keeps us all coming back to the races

my car is built per NDRA turbo 4 rules to down the T --- if you really have something to complain about in the rules actual have a complaint of something that will make the cars perform differenly and a stock fuel tank and full exhaust sure isn't it - I would be more than happy to take my car down the street with my 5 gallon fuel cell to show you it is streetable if you like

you may see the class as just something to do for fun on the weekends but there are many competitors in the "sportsman" classes that take this just as seriously as a "pro" class - what does it matter what type of class it is - we are dedicated racers that go to each event, not just keyboard commando's that sit back and complain cause they are too afraid to bring out a car of their own and try to compete

Fkned

If it is truelly a local class,as you feel it should be,then they should put a limit on how many races you can attend is that what your saying? There are many domestic sportsman racers that travel the country also to events should they stay home as well so you can be happy?

Fkned

This is a class for people to run heads up and not have to spend 50,000+ in development to do it.Should they just be forced to run brackets,because you feel the class is getting out of control.That's what happens to heads up classes,it's not about consistency it's about being the fastest in heads up competition.If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen,as the saying goes.

camp1320.com

IF NHRA DIDNT CARE ABOUT SPORTMAN RACERS THERE WOULD BE NO SPORT CLASSES...

LIKE I SAID 2 TIMES BEFORE... ITS A SPORTMAN CLASS FOR<U> LOCAL</U>guys to bring there cars to run. IT WAS INTENDED TO LOCAL GUYS TO DRIVE THERE SHIZNT TO THE TRACK AND NOT HAVE TO RUN BRACKET.!! IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO GIVE POINT FOR CHAMPIONSHIP IF THE CLASS IS BUILT FOR LOCAL STREET GUYS.

WHY DO YOU WANT CHAPIONSHIP FOR A SPORTMAN CLASS/ THESE ARE LOCAL GUY WHO CANT NOT TRAVEL CRSS CROUNTRY.. ITS LIKE SAYING CUS YOU CANT COMPETE IN THE HOTROD CLASS THAT YOU NEED SOME ONE TO GIVE POINTS IN A SPORTMAN CLASS..

THE POINT IS MOST STREET CARS DONT HAVE FUEL CELLS..AND DONT RUN OPEN DP.. for everyone 20 guys running mufflers one guy will run open EXHAUST.
YOUR THE KEYBOARD COMMANDO THAT IS SCARED TO RUN NHRA. MY CAR WAS BUILT TO RUN NHRA. IM NOT COMPLAINING.. I GOT FULL EXHASUT AND STOCK TANK. YOUR GUYS ARE THE ONES COMPLINING. HAHA funny guy here. as you can see your the one bitching about how they shouls allow fuel cells and open exhaust. If you want make your own sactioning and you can do what ever you want. no harness, no helmets, no rules for that matter

camp1320.com

this is not POWERARE.. i know how domestic side goes... this is sportcoompact.. what do we have here 3 -5 cars that would travel the country... If there was a purse and points for $10,000 ok ok lets say even $50,000 most people wont give up there jobs to go travel. add up how much gas and food and lodging, and parts cost.. domestic side, vavletrian is $39, rods are $200 for 8 cams are $59.. we cant do this on the import side... how many mfg support racing.. domestic side its about contingency.. many they got 4 pages front and back... as for imports its like one one page

jdkindle

wow, that was a very uneducated statement

James, Ed; I think it is time to let this guy live in his fantasy world and continue to lose

Fkned

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camp1320.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is not POWERARE.. i know how domestic side goes... this is sportcoompact.. what do we have here 3 -5 cars that would travel the country... </TD></TR></TABLE>And your point is???

camp1320.com

why dont you read what you buddy wrote.. he wanted it the sportman class to have points for championship. so he can travel byhimself cross crountry... the only reason they can do it is cus nopi is only in the east coast.

You guys are the ones losing.. come race NHRA.

bomber

The argument I have always heard against OEM tanks isn't the tank itself as much as the way it is secured down. Those straps look kinda

Anyone care to comment?

camp1320.com

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once again we have people who dont read