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Old 11-03-2009, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The sweed
more like tranny eater..
This. From experience.



I almost put a 366 on my car last year (BIG CD5 Chassis) I thought about a 372 this year, however staying with the Garrett camp The To4ZR has been an awesome snail... The H spools the SHIIIIT out oif a 66-67mm wheel!!!!!

Looks GREAT moar pix


LMK if youre interested in a syncroed PPG straightcut set we have a group of guys ready to go and need 2 more. I finally worked out the bugs with the Saenz box, but you WILL be miserablwe trying to keep an OEM internal trans together in that thiung anywhere near the 400ish tq mark. At over 450... They dont even last a weekend.

Ask me how I know...LOL


TWO THUMBS UP FOR DIFFERENT!!!


:O)

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LMK if youre interested in a syncroed PPG straightcut set we have a group of guys ready to go and need 2 more. I finally worked out the bugs with the Saenz box, but you WILL be miserablwe trying to keep an OEM internal trans together in that thiung anywhere near the 400ish tq mark. At over 450... They dont even last a weekend.



:O)
Send me a price on those, our biggest concern is the trans. The only solution we can see in the future would be a dog bog, or go with an h2b setup so we have a little more options.

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sick set up!
good to see another boosted H around in midwest. should come down to GLD for Import wars next year and compete in FWD class.
We will be out there for sure next year with a few cars.
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Looks awesome!!! Should be a fun build... You don't see many big power Ludes, at least not around here...
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Send me a price on those, our biggest concern is the trans. The only solution we can see in the future would be a dog bog, or go with an h2b setup so we have a little more options.



We will be out there for sure next year with a few cars.


H2B isnt an option.. We considered it for the accord... Once you get into the fab and seeing how things work out and line up ETC. Youll see why.
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does it burn oil?? ha ha just joking...... nice set up man....how much hp are you making??
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H2B isnt an option.. We considered it for the accord... Once you get into the fab and seeing how things work out and line up ETC. Youll see why.
We'll cut off the whole front end and put a crx tube chassis .
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We'll cut off the whole front end and put a crx tube chassis .
touche


HAHAHAHAHA'
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Originally Posted by extralargenog
H2B isnt an option.. We considered it for the accord... Once you get into the fab and seeing how things work out and line up ETC. Youll see why.
Not sure what you mean. unless your talking about the h2b kit and not the chassis, because any good fab shop could make it fit the chassis without much effort. from what i've seen rc will not have an issue making an h2b work. plus there using a cuff in there h22 tranny so the it should last a good deal longer than expected.

build is looking good bob..
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We will be out there for sure next year with a few cars.


i've never been to one. i need to go. i dont know why i always find myself busy......
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Not sure what you mean. unless your talking about the h2b kit and not the chassis, because any good fab shop could make it fit the chassis without much effort. from what i've seen rc will not have an issue making an h2b work. plus there using a cuff in there h22 tranny so the it should last a good deal longer than expected.

build is looking good bob..
You dont know because obviously you dont have much experiebce with the BB or CD chassis. Ihave looked at ALLL kinds of options including the gay *** H2B into the CD5, Not even close to worth iot, nor would I want the snub front end. Then Again a shop didnt build my car... If I wanted a tube fron end Id have a race car... I prefer a Full interior street 4 door that makes retarded power, hooks, and doesnt break. Also that runs super hard at the track and hurts Liter bikes feelings on the freeway. I have it... WIthout the cluster**** of putting a shitty B tranny in it (AFTER THE FAB YOU STILL NEED TO BUILD THE TRANNY ANYWAYS)..... Thats the only advantage of the B tranny... There are more options for internals/gearsets etc.... If its going to be a drag only car... cant beat the PPG dogbox.

You can make anything work with enough work... But doing it with anything short of a b snub (as mentioned) isnt going to be nearly worth it, or able to line up worth a ****. It would be a better option to build a trans that will hold up. It can be done.


Lets just say I have a little experience with a big H build... Have for a good while now.

Oh by the way, that cuff wont help nearly as much as you think in the heavy prelude... Shaft seperation isnt the issue... strength of the gears is... Cryoed, Heat treated whatever... 2nd nor four will hold up for long

Ask me how I know, or search a little bit and figure it out for yourself. Ive posted recently anout it.






OP pm me your number... Lets chat, see if I can tell you anything you dsont know that will help... TRUST ME Ive been through hell getting my pile to be reliable... The tranny is your only real worry at that level, **** Im using OEM 5th gen Lude axles in the Accord (the inner CV spider sliders are HUGE)... Ive been running them profusely beaten on the street, at the track on the dynoi for over 2 years at 650 WHP +.


Have yet to break one.

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^^^ this guy knows what he's talking about when it comes to trannys..... and he knows a lot about car stuff too lol

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You dont know because obviously you dont have much experiebce with the BB or CD chassis. Ihave looked at ALLL kinds of options including the gay *** H2B into the CD5, Not even close to worth iot, nor would I want the snub front end. Then Again a shop didnt build my car... If I wanted a tube fron end Id have a race car... I prefer a Full interior street 4 door that makes retarded power, hooks, and doesnt break. Also that runs super hard at the track and hurts Liter bikes feelings on the freeway. I have it... WIthout the cluster**** of putting a shitty B tranny in it (AFTER THE FAB YOU STILL NEED TO BUILD THE TRANNY ANYWAYS)..... Thats the only advantage of the B tranny... There are more options for internals/gearsets etc.... If its going to be a drag only car... cant beat the PPG dogbox.

You can make anything work with enough work... But doing it with anything short of a b snub (as mentioned) isnt going to be nearly worth it, or able to line up worth a ****. It would be a better option to build a trans that will hold up. It can be done.


Lets just say I have a little experience with a big H build... Have for a good while now.

Oh by the way, that cuff wont help nearly as much as you think in the heavy prelude... Shaft seperation isnt the issue... strength of the gears is... Cryoed, Heat treated whatever... 2nd nor four will hold up for long

Ask me how I know, or search a little bit and figure it out for yourself. Ive posted recently anout it.






OP pm me your number... Lets chat, see if I can tell you anything you dsont know that will help... TRUST ME Ive been through hell getting my pile to be reliable... The tranny is your only real worry at that level, **** Im using OEM 5th gen Lude axles in the Accord (the inner CV spider sliders are HUGE)... Ive been running them profusely beaten on the street, at the track on the dynoi for over 2 years at 650 WHP +.


Have yet to break one.
well, i'll spare you how long i've been building h's, how many trannies i've tossed and all my builds with h's in different chassis. its not for this thread.

you stated the cuff will not help as much. why do you think the gears break? they break because the torque is being applied further and further out on the teeth as the gears separate under exteme loads. keep the gears together and you will extend the life of the tranny. how much? depends on the power level. remember, if you you break a tranny every two passes (as i did) then you install the cuff and break every 4 passes you have effectively extanded the life of the tranny by 100%. plus you have never seen or used an Hseries tranny cuff since I just designed it a few months ago, so your factual statement about it not helping makes you sound ignorant since you actually don't have any facts.

building with a PPG box is ideal, but 4-5-6k may not be in the budget. PERIOD!!! if doing it the best without budgetary limits was the norm then SSAUTOCROME would be out of business vs selling twice as many turbo kits than anyone else in the industry. the second you start telling someone who doesn't have the money to do it right the first time or don't do it at all they block out everything you say from that point on.

also keep in mind, if this car runs 1 9second pass its huge for RC and the customer. Then the PPG box will come.
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We'll find out next year one way or another , we know the handcuff is more so just a band aid to the h-series transmission, but we just want it to last a little bit longer. We don't expect it to hold up for ever, neither does the customer.
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i'm putting a turbo on a 98 lude right now too! but it's not even close to that size. lol
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Ya I have a bit of bad news for ya... but even with the cuff, dont expect more than a few passes out of the oem geasrset,,,, Its not shaft defletion or the case flexing killing the gears (I understand what youre saying, of course there is minor deflection, buit its NOT the major issue in play here)... Its the gears not mechanically being able to take the power. The teeth will strip off like corn on the cob. I wish you and the customer best of luck, but what the other guy is ALSO failing to realize is that without a SERIOUS diet... That 5th gen Lude will weigh nowhere NEAR what any hatch with an H does... Compounding the problematic weak OEM gears.

Im aware of dudes cuff... 4 passes instead of two isnt a fix dude...Nor is it adressing the issue. A gearset is. The H2B wont fix the problem, not even with a magical cuff... Youll still have to buikd the box.... Therefore leaving you in the same boat with MUCH more work and still in the same position. Spending MORE money

I got only two or three passes as well before destroying 2 or 4 or BOTH (going through the rest AFTER 2 broke and breaking four later in the pass)... Being as Ive been on here and was looking for any info a few years ago and no one had any USEFUL info... I assure you, I had to learn myself and have a pretty ****in good understanding of the H tranny and what its going to work for and what its not, that Being said.... If you dont want to fork out the cash for the PPG doggy box as mentioned above, I had some interest in a synced set from them (around 32-3500 dollars would be the price) but there was limited interest as we needed 5 people but only myself and a couple others were ready to fork out the cash. No Matter, there are other (gearset) options available NOW. Ill leave that to you to dig the data up on, or the OP can PM me and Ill fill him in....


The gearset fixed my issues, without a cuff...... I wonder why????

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bump... motor is now in the car... hopefully some pics will be up soon.
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Any updates?
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I cant wait to check this out with Sean on Friday.
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Everything is back in, still need to do a few things but got a lot accomplished last week. It will be ready in time for race season, we still need to add the wastegate placement ( which I'm waiting to see how the intercooler piping will be routed, most likely will end up making a custom intercooler, and still have to fit the downpipe out the hood.





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Mocking up the intercooler, gonna make a new one to fit the setup better, I'll try to get some pics.
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