K Series vs J Series (N/A Development)
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With the growing popularity of the Nissan/Toyota/Lexus V8's in motorsports how long before someone puts one together and wants to race in Allmotor?
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I think the js will definitely take over Ks as long as the support is there and prices are not stupid high for parts like they are now. Evans tuning made almost 500 on his j and was still making more improvements. Right now for cams all there really is a regrind threw bisi or delt.
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I grew up trying to extract it all out of a 4 banger. v6 to me is no fun, just like an automatic. I think automatics should be completely banned from all drag racing classes that are heads up quite frankly. More power to the power makers though. All motor is tuff.
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ive been a 4 cylinder guy for ever too. now im to the point i just want to go fast so its going to be v6 and auto for me LOL. still better than selling completely out for an LSX swap.
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AEM, Haltech, Motec and any other standalone that supports the s2000 cam/crank trigger pattern (00-05' mag sensor style only). The J series runs off the same trigger pattern. No machining of the gears is needed. I have personally done all three of those EMS systems on the J series with no issues. The auto J series had mag sensors, the manual J series had hall sensors. I have had no issues with the Mag sensors using Motec, other than getting the filter tables defined properly.
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They seem to be at least at stout as the b series, but possibly stronger. Everything is bigger inside. They have a built in oil pump assembly. You have to remember they were in 3400 lb+ cars that produced double the torque as a 4 cylinder, so Honda over built them in comparison. There are guys making 600-700 whp in sedans and the trans are holding up. Quick search on car-part.com shows 10+ 03' CL type S 6 spds available for $800-1800.00 price range. You can purchase a 03-06' Accord 6 spd brand new in the crate from honda for $2200~2300.00. The gearing/trans is the same as the type s, they just lack the LSD. You can purchase the LSD separately from Acura for around $900.00 new.
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Re: K Series vs J Series (N/A Development)
Ive built a couple J trsannys. THEY ARE HUGE Inside.. The final drive is almost comical compared to H/K series stuff.. Theyre HUGE, the achiles so far Ive seen are the reverse assembles, they have their own fork shaft and synchro/sleeve sets and go ouy
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They seem to be at least at stout as the b series, but possibly stronger. Everything is bigger inside. They have a built in oil pump assembly. You have to remember they were in 3400 lb+ cars that produced double the torque as a 4 cylinder, so Honda over built them in comparison. There are guys making 600-700 whp in sedans and the trans are holding up. Quick search on car-part.com shows 10+ 03' CL type S 6 spds available for $800-1800.00 price range. You can purchase a 03-06' Accord 6 spd brand new in the crate from honda for $2200~2300.00. The gearing/trans is the same as the type s, they just lack the LSD. You can purchase the LSD separately from Acura for around $900.00 new.
From what ive read to do a j2k mounting the starter and half shafts will be a huge issue and expensive if one where to choose this route. But those wanting to do a j-swap might find it to be an option since only 3500 6spd cl type s was produced.
That being said theres no way j will take over k. For that to happen it must have abundance of engines, transmissions and parts. that will make prices reasonable and of course aftermarket support.
K-series didnt replace B-series because obviously its not a drop in swap. Instead k-series is just another option just like j-series. Both are badass options but neither is cost effective, its mostly based on personal preferences.
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I see swappedTURBOegg wants an auto tranny. I've heard of people switching to auto trannys before, mainly in the domestic car world. Why are autos the new trend in drag racing?
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Its just going to take more people running J swaps to get parts. Someone posted that Skunk was willing to make cam's if they thought they could sell at least 50 sets. I think once people start realizing:
1. Has more power potential
2. Has a WAY strong transmission
3. Can handle 600+ WHP stock
People will start choosing the J swap over the K swap and parts will start being made.
1. Has more power potential
2. Has a WAY strong transmission
3. Can handle 600+ WHP stock
People will start choosing the J swap over the K swap and parts will start being made.
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