HybridMT

yep - not the most popular, but many more entries than AMP.

2.2EG

I guess I dont notice the 2 or 3 cars in that class...I never seen them out number us in AMP, but I only went to the Vegas and Fontana races

HybridMT

Yes, but they're not FWD and general consensus of the FWD class is they like to keep it FWD only. Majority rules in this case and there are typically 10x more FWD than AWD competitors.

HybridMT

I don't recall many at the West coast events now that I think about, but IFO is still fairly new there. It's become very popular at a lot of other locations, almost always a Q8. It's the ultimate budget heads up / just for fun class.

reactiondc2

if the racers dont want to mix it up then i can understand that...but the idea was proposed by a fwd competitor and i have never seen the question asked...getting lumped into a class the cars cannot be competitive in wont stop us from racing, but it certainly takes some excitement out of it for the racers and it wont add anything for the spectators..after checking the results from this years events, if anything most of them are at a disadvantage in the fwd class as well...

EDIT: the rule change seems contradictory ,you limit the turbo size to slow down a mid to low 10 second class,but then group low to mid 10 amp cars into it?...doesnt seem to make sense

TurboFocus

Yea combining classes is a bad idea

0Innes

iTrader: (3)

The problem with threads like this is that people that shouldn't be heard get their opinions out there , IFO doesn't need a democratic vote every time a new idea arises that is the best part about being a private for profit business...Cliff you have good idea's and IFO has done well so far so go with your gut and make a decision, the more you let others talk the less that will get done ....regardless of what rule changes happen the real racers will continue to race and the others, well, will do what they normally do.....

SIXTY

I know that the amp turnout in other parts of the country is low, but we would appreciate having an amp class at the west coast events. I can list about 30 cars that fit into this class locally. Obviously not everyone makes it to every event but about 10-15 cars usually. West coast shootout ( not IFO) had a sixteen car field last year. I hope we don't lose this class over here. Any possibility of keeping it ?

HybridMT

Def not contradictory based on the cars that actually regularly come out. The turbo limit is to keep it in a mid/low 10 second class. Most 67 guys are running 9s, some even high 8s. Whereas most of the AMP guys are running mid/high 10s, very few low 10s... actually only once at IFO so far.

SO.GA_SI

Still think its a good idea. Quick question though, gainsville is really strict on tech we're planning a cage install to meet the rules but the rear seats aren't goin to fit anymore. Is that going to be a problem.

gringotegra

One way or another, FIS class in the NW is a mid to low 10 sec class lol.

AMP With FIS sounds like a good idea up here. There were only 2 cars in AMP up here, so why not combine them. Close racing is where it is at!

dcmatt

iTrader: (7)

Maybe only combine when amp doesn't have at least a field of 8? No reason to combine when they actually have enough cars.

HybridMT

Yep

f@sth@tch89

iTrader: (3)

I like the idea. I had to race in outlaw last fontana because I have a 1 piece front end, all lexan and sheet metal floor. If we have 8 "pro" all motor cars, then give us a class. If not I don't mind racing with street turbo cars.

I think a good name is FWD Street/Sport.

BoostR41

I will be in FIS at Columbus and I think this is a great idea.

DDTECH

I think its a good idea.

Down here there isn't alot of AMP guys.. the regular few, but I think 6 or more AMP would be minimal, otherwise just combine the FIS and AMP..

91TurboGSRCRX

So amp will have to follow FIS rules ?

MONSTERZC

No each class would follow their own class rules.

91TurboGSRCRX

I don't want to get buslinked by a allmotor car lol. I think the two classes should stay as is.

Pure Racing

I know this doesn't apply to all venues. But these are the Crofton IFO results.
In 2010 FIS was won with a 10.8 and AMP with a 10.40.
In 2011 FIS was a 9.0 winner (wrong class placement) vs 11.2 in finals. AMP was 10.1 by Bello.
In 2012 AMP had 1 car and FIS winner was 11.2.
If the AMP guys show up it will be a land slide.

I've raced every MD IFO since it began and will continue to race regardless of the classes and rules because I always have a good time at this race. I hope we have 2 Crofton IFOs every year. The spectator turnout was massive in April.

guy_from_nerk

650whp Integra and your worried about being "buslinked" by all motor cars....If there is 8 of them then this is null and void anyways. There are some fast All Motor cars around the country but how many of them show up to all these events?

AMP Ohio Winner- 13.9

91TurboGSRCRX

You didn't see the humor in what I wrote. But most FIS cars don't run low 10s usually low to mid 11s . I don't see why a street car would have to compete with a pro car.

guy_from_nerk

Nope sure didn't my bad lol.

mikesrex

is there a turbo limit for FIS? if so why is it not in the rules on importfaceoff.net?

gringotegra

NW IFO 2010 FIS winner ran a 11.2
In 2011 FIS winner was a 10.4
2012 FIS winner was a 10.0 and there were 6-7 cars under the 10.4.

AMP was like a 10.3 and there was only 2 cars in it. It would be in their interest to run in FIS and have more fun racing.