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Old 07-16-2013, 04:43 PM
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Fuel pump wont cause it to run ruch. The FPR will regulate it to what it needs to be.
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didn't think about that. Got a point. What can cause a loss in top end power then that's hurting my car this bad.
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Originally Posted by EpHatchy
So is it a rule of thumb that 1/4 mph should be 20mph more then 1/8th mph.
no not at all. its related to the power the car makes.
at 500hp i pick up about 28mph. some of the real real fast civics pick up 40 something mph.

you need a tune. you will be happy you did. honestly though i dont think your 91 mph is too far off. everyone will say like shitt doggg i trap like 100mph with that setup, but we all know the internet is not reality. take your 91mph add that 5mph that everyone was down and thats 96mph, more than acceptable.

what was the density altitude that day?
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temperature: 95 deg f
uncorrected barometer: 29.322 Hg
humidity: 19 %

vapor pressure: 1.662 Hgdew point: 46.227 deg f
grains: 47.4air density: 90.828 %
density altitude: 3,256.811 ft

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Old 07-17-2013, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by blackeg
no not at all. its related to the power the car makes.
at 500hp i pick up about 28mph. some of the real real fast civics pick up 40 something mph.

you need a tune. you will be happy you did. honestly though i dont think your 91 mph is too far off. everyone will say like shitt doggg i trap like 100mph with that setup, but we all know the internet is not reality. take your 91mph add that 5mph that everyone was down and thats 96mph, more than acceptable.

what was the density altitude that day?

you my friend have just made me understand my slip.

I plugged my numbers into the drag times.com calculator and my results :
Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
14.297 @ 94.904 MPH

Extensively Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
14.468 @ 93.764 MPH

Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines
14.659 @ 92.479 MPH


Guess the cali heat is to blame for my shitty *** times.
Old 07-18-2013, 08:16 AM
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I don't want to make another thread so I figured id ask this question here. I have a stock throttle body and my intake pipe being 3.5" with a v-stack am I losing velocity.

I Have plans to install a Skunk2 intake manifold with bigger throttle body and some skunk stage2 tuners cams or gsc cams something that will make power and not have to rev past 8200 or 8500 rpm.

thanks for the input.
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I prefer to match the intake pipe to the throttle body...

Think about how air is flowing threw the intake pipe... straight and nice... now when that 3.5'' pipe narrows down threw the coupler its going to follow the outside and cause turbulence in the air... this is why it would be better to match the intake pipe to the tb... 70mm is 3'' btw
Old 07-19-2013, 07:01 AM
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thought 70mm is 2.75".76mm is 3".

so should I ditch this intake and go back to 3"?
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your right... sorry... but yes I would match the tb to the intake pipe... more direct flow of air...
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well went back to the track switched it up to a 3" intake and produced slower times.
think the best time I pulled was a 15.3 @90
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i would start with a tune and drag radials... you need to get that 60 foot down, more seat time will def help out
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so these look like road tires to me.guy is claiming drag slicks. says he was cutting 1.6 1.7 60' times.what do you guys think?
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anyway to figure out what they are?
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How do those look like road tires? Those are clearly slicks.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=goodyear+slicks
Old 07-30-2013, 10:23 AM
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http://www.racegoodyear.com/tires/pd...web_100511.pdf

Did some more research, they are. zoomed into the numbers on the tires and they read r475 / 2527

22.0x9.0-13 807-961-068
formula g19 tires
ROAD TIRES.
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just get some radials i only cut a 2.0 60" on mine with the crappy bfg's and it runs 13.6-13.7 on 100% stock itr swap. you just need seat time and start playing with air pressure and suspension settings if you have adjustable
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you can cut good 60ft's with roundy round slicks. i was cutting 2.0 consistent 60ft's with 23x8x13 hoosiers babying it out the hole on stock suspension with neuspeed lowering springs, this is when i started going to the drag strip. now im cutting 1.7's all day on 22x8x13 M/T drag slicks with a completely redone suspension. im confident that i can cut 1.8's with roundy round slicks with my setup cause i cut consistent 2.0 60ft's with my 185/60/13 hoosier r6 radials on vx wheels. so what im saying you can cut good 60ft's with roundy round(road coarse) slicks but not as good as true drag slicks but i wouldnt let somebody try to hustle me trying to say those goodyears are true drag slicks!!!
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Originally Posted by seelback
you can cut good 60ft's with roundy round slicks. i was cutting 2.0 consistent 60ft's with 23x8x13 hoosiers babying it out the hole on stock suspension with neuspeed lowering springs, this is when i started going to the drag strip. now im cutting 1.7's all day on 22x8x13 M/T drag slicks with a completely redone suspension. im confident that i can cut 1.8's with roundy round slicks with my setup cause i cut consistent 2.0 60ft's with my 185/60/13 hoosier r6 radials on vx wheels. so what im saying you can cut good 60ft's with roundy round(road coarse) slicks but not as good as true drag slicks but i wouldnt let somebody try to hustle me trying to say those goodyears are true drag slicks!!!
What psi did you set them at? How long did you heat them up in the burnout box?

he doesn't want a lot for them maybe ill give them a shot **** might even get him to drop the price even more since their not tru drag slicks.
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What psi did you set them at? How long did you heat them up in the burnout box?

he doesn't want a lot for them maybe ill give them a shot **** might even get him to drop the price even more since their not tru drag slicks.
yes, try to lower the price due to false advertisement of them not being true drag slicks, it werent hurt to try.

M/T 22x8x13 drag slicks 12-14psi depending on track conditions
Hossier 23x8x13 road coarse slicks 10-14psi depending on track conditions(but that was a long time ago and my setup is more dialed in and i have a ton more seat time now)
Hoosier R6 radials 185/60/13 10-12psi depending on track conditions
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What psi did you set them at? How long did you heat them up in the burnout box?

he doesn't want a lot for them maybe ill give them a shot **** might even get him to drop the price even more since their not tru drag slicks.
for the M/T's I do a 2nd gear burnout starting off by heating them up a little bit in the box and I drop the E-Brake and let the car role out until the tires bite(doesnt always bite, sometimes i have to just let out)

the hoosier radials i do the same procedure and let out cause they never bite rolling out of the box

the hoosier road coarse tires do the same and they would bite coming out of the box but with the added power i have now im not sure what they would do.

heres a shot of me doing a burnout, mines the green ek
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Does seem rather slow. See my sig. That's what I ran with a 2.1 60 foot.
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Does seem rather slow. See my sig. That's what I ran with a 2.1 60 foot.
Don't rub it in. Lol I've been watching cars on YouTube same or somewhat the same mods and seen a few gsr equipped ehs run about the same as me.then I see the few like you that must have factory freaks. I'm goin to compression test this weekend see how healthy my motor is. I'm stumped I've checked everything on my car timing both cam and ignition, head gasket ,oil psi, not leaking any coolant or oil. Clutch is def not slipping tried to take off in 3rd gear car just dies.It does burn under 1/2qt every 700-800 miles which doesn't sound to bad.

Can lightened flywheel hurt track times? What's your guys take on that?
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lightened flywheel wont hurt you. the burning oil could be affecting your performance slightly. if everything checks out then you need a tune. my tuner use to have a oem integra gsr a dc 4-1 one piece header, 2.5" exhaust, aem cold air intake, cant remember if it was with b16 or gsr trans, G.E. cam gears and s300 tuned by him and he ran 14.6@94-95mph, full weight, a/c, power steering, street tires, and yes the oem gsr intake manifold. so a tune might be the ticket.
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Don't overthink this. Put your car on the dyno and see what it makes. Report back. Then you'll get a better estimation of what your car should be running.


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