itspools

Agreed. Too many old ****s on the NHRA board making ignorant rules. I mean lets be honest, does a car like a Buggati need a actual cage since it traps over 135 stock? A helmet, yes. A scatter shield, SFI pulley, and clutch, etc. Not so much. It would be time consuming but they use revise the rules for newer vehicles and not be ridiculous enough to compare ethanol to methanol.

I'm glad I don't plan to run at many NHRA tracks.

therealpoorboy

Unfortunately my scruff isn't NHRA approved, yet.

FelixTuning

Wow You racing this year?

sanman000719

Unfortunately my scruff isn't NHRA approved, yet.

probly never will be unless your driving some old muscle lol

MrParks

Sfi15 is one coat that is hot!

SPOOLINmatt

they need to be more concerned with policing people driving four wheeled missiles at 330 mph.

or people trying to run nitro in their civic without all that.

BIGTUNA

Jebus your a moron, the SFI spec is not the result of burning colorless its because alchohol fires are harder to put out. So in the event of a fire the driver of a alky car needs a longer protection window.

Do a little bit of home work before you open your mouth.

0xenocron

Why wouldn't I be? I raced all last year, the year before that...etc etc.

Ethanol is harder to put out than a traditional gasoline fire true, but that doesn't mean that's WHY they made a rule about "Alcohol" and Im not sure why you are so privy to how NHRA makes their rule changes when you are quoting second hand posts by some guy on the internet from another forum...

Do all NHRA tracks have the specific fire extinguishers with the correct foam required to put out Ethanol fires as part of NHRA mandate?

Do the tracks have the proper training to handle specific Ethanol fires?

And AGAIN, has the NHRA done a specific STUDY about at WHAT PERCENTAGE of Ethanol content this "new enforcement" of an old rule requires all of this to happen? Again...is it 10%, 15%, 25%, 50%, 85%, 90%...etc.

Finally...name calling doesnt become you or help get your agenda across.

BIGTUNA

They treat Eth and Meth fires the same, hence the rule.

poorboy44

So the money you save by putting E-85 in your car compared to c16,
now has to be spent on a firesuit.... Awesome lol

typemismatch

E85 is perfect for street driven weekend racers. That's where the money savings comes into play.

If you have a strictly track driven car, why would you run E85?

BIGTUNA

Here's are a gem from E85 fire protocol paper when I looked into why they did it for above E10.

"Fire-fighting: Fuel ethanol and E85 fires require specific equipment, materials, and training. Recent testing of fire-fighting agents sponsored by the Ethanol Emergency Response Coalition using the Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. (UL) 162 test methodology revealed that conventional gasoline fire-fighting methods and chemicals are not likely to be effective on high ethanol content fuel fires. Ethanol blended fuels with greater than 10% ethanol require the use of a Polar Solventor Alcohol Resistant (AR) type of Foam commonly known as an AR-AFFF. Traditional AFFF foams have limited to no ability to extinguish fire emergencies when the ethanol content is above 10% by volume. AR type foams work on all alcohol variations of ethanol and gasoline blended fuels and would be the best use of fire response equipment. It should be mentioned that Dry Chemical fire extinguishing agents may also work on ethanol blended fuels, however, the dry chemical manufacturer must be consulted for appropriateness."

SPOOLINmatt

Uh because it performs? And my car is strictly track.

therealpoorboy

Actually it has alot to do with the type vehicles this fuel is used with. Most of them have 5-7 point harnesses and many more bars to get in and out of quickly, not to mention they go faster and it takes longer to stop the vehicle to be able to get out. That's when the time issue starts.

tepid1

Bringing this back up....

I recently purchased my new 3.2a/15 suit through ProFox Racing. Jacket was $450, Pants were $430 and Gloves were $70. They offer free shipping and a 10% discount for military/veterans.

The suit is recertifiable through them for $95.

Just thought I would pass the offer to everyone else.

My car is still on Q, for now, but after April it's gonna be on E98.

Garage 808 Hatch

I just talked to our chassis tech guy this weekend, and he said they are looking to implement this fully.

He also said that "D" bars are not going to be allowed to go to 6" plates anymore. They must be attached to a bar that goes to each door sill.