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Old 08-24-2012, 04:15 AM
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This must be a popular pump in Colorado! lol
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Originally Posted by evilone
Anyone have any experience with this pump and methanol?
From what magnafuel tech suppot told me the way the pump motor is designed it uses fuel to cool it and straight methanol will hurt it and stated its not compatible.
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Originally Posted by 4cylfeind
This must be a popular pump in Colorado! lol
LOL. **** yea.
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Originally Posted by 4cylfeind
Wow. Id like to see that data if you can dig it up. It just doesnt seem like a very common/popular pump for Hondas.
Its not, but its very common in other markets ( dsm guys and domestic guys run them ) , this was the only other information that my customer actually received.

Got this data set from a buddy today...check it out:

Independent test of Magnafuel MP-4303
100 micron sock inlet
-10 feed, -8 return
13.8v dc

158.4gph @ 40psi
148.2gph @ 50psi
137.4gph @ 60psi
126.0gph @ 70psi
114.0gph @ 80psi
Old 08-24-2012, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 90blackcrx
Its not, but its very common in other markets ( dsm guys and domestic guys run them ) , this was the only other information that my customer actually received.

Got this data set from a buddy today...check it out:

Independent test of Magnafuel MP-4303
100 micron sock inlet
-10 feed, -8 return
13.8v dc

158.4gph @ 40psi
148.2gph @ 50psi
137.4gph @ 60psi
126.0gph @ 70psi
114.0gph @ 80psi
Thats solid! Especially at 14v!

I wonder how it would pan out using a -10 to the pump, -8 thru the rail, and a -6 return.
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

Originally Posted by 4cylfeind
Perfect!! What is your base fuel pressure? Also what size are your lines the run in/out of the pump?

Mine is -10 in and -8 out with a -6 return
Originally Posted by jdm inc
Hey what fuel pressure you guys running?
Base pressure is 55psi

-8 from tank to pump
-8 pump to rail
-6 return
100 micron pre pump 30 micron post pump
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Originally Posted by Mo_Spec
Base pressure is 55psi

-8 from tank to pump
-8 pump to rail
-6 return
100 micron pre pump 30 micron post pump
Perfect.
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

Magnafuel actually recommends running a bigger size before the pump. I.E. -10 in -8 out. I have plumbing for -8 in and out but may change to -10 in before I get my car done. And I'm going to use the stock -6 return.
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

I run -10 before and after the pump. I used the stock feed line as my return since its bigger than the factory return. I'm also at 55psi base pressure. I forgot I put a boost a pump about a year ago because I thought fuel pressure was dropping but it was a bad sensor. So I just left it on there.
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its a bad *** pump that is quieter that the aeromotives pro and eliminator. Magna fuel's customer service is excellent also. If you need to send the pump in for service it take them about 2 days and only charge you for replacement parts, not labor. I can tell you that a complete rebuild will cost my customer under $100 with an upgrade from the 4301 to the 4303. Last I check about a year ago, all the new pumps were being manufactored to me alc/meth compatible.
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Originally Posted by Turbo Ric
its a bad *** pump that is quieter that the aeromotives pro and eliminator. Magna fuel's customer service is excellent also. If you need to send the pump in for service it take them about 2 days and only charge you for replacement parts, not labor. I can tell you that a complete rebuild will cost my customer under $100 with an upgrade from the 4301 to the 4303. Last I check about a year ago, all the new pumps were being manufactored to me alc/meth compatible.
Customer service is a huge factor. Under $100 seems very reasonable for a rebuild/upgrade.

At this point, its pretty clear to me that this will be my next fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by 90blackcrx
Independent test of Magnafuel MP-4303
100 micron sock inlet
-10 feed, -8 return
13.8v dc

158.4gph @ 40psi
148.2gph @ 50psi
137.4gph @ 60psi
126.0gph @ 70psi
114.0gph @ 80psi
That would be excellent info. if they specified the specific gravity of the test fluid. Gas? E85? E98? All significantly different. We need mass flow numbers to answer the original question here. Volume is useless without a qualifier.
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114 gph of water = 951.9 lb/hr
114 gph of gasoline = 703.4 lb/hr
114 gph of E85 = 742.5 lb/hr
114 gph of E100 = 755.8 lb/hr
114 gph of methanol = 757.7 lb/hr
114 gph of nitromethane = 1081.4 lb/hr
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good info!
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

Originally Posted by cotorresgee
From what magnafuel tech suppot told me the way the pump motor is designed it uses fuel to cool it and straight methanol will hurt it and stated its not compatible.
guess i have to buck up, thanks for the info
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Before I could even order it, look what shows up!!



Time to load up the "Gangster" tune!

My GF and Rob Morse need to communicate less LOL!

Thank you TPR!!!
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Nice! Gf rocks!
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Nice! Gf rocks!


For sure!!!
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

Originally Posted by cotorresgee
From what magnafuel tech suppot told me the way the pump motor is designed it uses fuel to cool it and straight methanol will hurt it and stated its not compatible.
methanol use the mp-4703 or mp-4103
it works great just not good for steet
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dang lucky you!
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Originally Posted by jdm inc
dang lucky you!
Haha I know right!!
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

Just wanting to bump this thread to see if anyone else has tried this fuel pump out and had good luck with it.

After installing mine, I was able to crank the boost back up and make some passes without loosing fuel pressure up top. So far its been awesome! I will have be able to get the car back on the dyno in the spring to clean up the tune a little bit more and maybe turn it up 6-7lbs of boost. 28lbs just doest cut the mustard

Very happy with this pump so far!
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

I'll be using this pump on my car this year with C85 and ID200's. Shooting for 800+whp. I'll see if I can max my turbo out lol
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Originally Posted by Sickteg24
I'll be using this pump on my car this year with C85 and ID200's. Shooting for 800+whp. I'll see if I can max my turbo out lol
ID200's wont get you very far!
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Default Re: Fuel pump questions: Magnafuel 4303

I have a question I am going to be switching from E85 to Ignite 114 which is a better Ethanol then E85 from what I was told.

I am running ID 1000's with a Bosch 044 inline and a Walbro 255 intank. Locash was telling me I will most likely max out at 550 - 600whp, my question is what can I do either fuel pump wise or injector wise to maybe get up to 650?


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