Pumpking.

Quite the 60'!

Are you running it off a solenoid and bypass the FCV after first gear?

CO_RaceFab

No its just in the line doing its thing... im still clutching every gear also.

calebmeat

What valve did you use ?? And how you instal it ??? Can you post a diagram ??? 10x

CO_RaceFab

I can post a picture but i really think you guys are reading into the clutch thing to far. I wouldnt attribute my 60' to the flow control valve.

calebmeat

Whats the secret from your personal opinion ??? What is the number one thing that makes diffrence in 60ft mark ??? You can replly me on PM if you like

CO_RaceFab

Solid suspension components, weight bias and alignment are what i personally think matters most... we have an integra with an oem trans, oem rsx axles and no flow control valve that has gone 1.49 recently both cars have a 73/27% weight split... most guys just seem to overlook the basics.

calebmeat

This is brutall but can i ask you for some opinion to launch on asphalt (street) with radials. I asking for this becouse here in Bulgaria we dont have tracks, just old asphalt-concrete road and use them for track. Do you have some expireince on old airplane tracks ???

96ekb20

what type of chamber degrees do you guys call a good alinement

CO_RaceFab

Usually ends up -1* at rest and 0 at lift and toe .5 in on each side

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iTrader: (1)

toed in? I thought u want some toe out...front of the tires tilted outwards

CO_RaceFab

Sorry i think you have it backwards... the closer you can get the car zero lift the less toe in you will need. When the car lifts the tires poke out, get out your jack and see for yourself if you would like.

nonvtecallmotor

Its called "bump steer".. Not all cars have "bump steer" and depending on where the rack is compared to tie rod mounting point it can have toe in OR toe out.. With more toe in, the more the car "torque steers".. Toe out makes the car go straighter but causes drag.. Many "real coilovers" limit wheel travel, helping minimizing "bump steer"...



I prefer a small amount of toe out.. I like a car that drives straighter..

CO_RaceFab

I wouldnt want to argue with the great rick everly but i disagree. I understand bump steer, personally my tie rods angle downwards hence when the car lifts it pulls the back of the wheel in and the fronts out. I dont have great shocks but i have the ones i have setup as good as they are going to get. Toe out makes cars drive like **** imo toe in seems to drive inward or more straight if you will, but hey what do i know im just an idiot out in cow town usa. Just goes to show you there is more than one way to skin a cat.

PyroProblem

I have to agree with everything you've stated. From what Ive seen doing alignments on Porsches the past 12 years, A little toe in helps high speed stability at the expense of low speed steering response. On the other hand, when the front has more toe out, it feels squirelly as hell at higher speeds, but awesome at low speed cornering. A lot of different things can affect the "feel" of a perfectly setup alignment.

nonvtecallmotor

You cant compare a RWD to a FWD car. The alignment is completely different.. Pusher vs puller.. Same with comparing a low speed vs a high speed.. Alot of things CHANGE when you apply power and lift..

nonvtecallmotor

I'm no better then anyone else, NO ONE can ever be to smart to learn..

I have tried alot of things in my 20 years of racing Honda's.

E Town DSM

Under accelration the wheels tend to try and drive into each other just the natural forces. Even when using toe out they will tend to straighen themselves out. Thats before you add the lift and weight transfer.

SPOOLINmatt

The tires tow out from each other under hard acceleration on a civic/integra.

The tie rods pull on the back of the hub inward(mount point behind pivot point) as the spindle is under load "moving forward".

CO_RaceFab

Yea i wouldnt think they would be trying to drive inward.... but ricky and ricky have been doing this **** forever so who knows.

E Town DSM

Im no expert but i have learned from some people who are and the way it was explained to me many years ago. Lets forget about what the rack tries to do when u add lift or bumpsteer. But under accelration on a fwd the front tires will try to touch each other in the front. Was the case in hot rod cars and pro fwd cars that i worked on many years ago. Any high powered fwd the drag races generally runs toe out not toe in.what may actually confuse some people is some alignment machines read toe out as negative toe vs some read it in positive toe. Guess that depends on the way the machine\units are setup. Suspension and alignment definely plays a part in giving the cars mechanical grip but power application plays a huge role like Everly said earlier.

96ekb20

what tire brand would use in this set up.

96ekb20

so a 1/2 inch of toe in with car at rest ? is that only for cars running tall slicks or would you still do this on a 23x8x13 ?

96ekb20

do you guys feel m/t is good or is m/h or hossier better? tire wise.

CO_RaceFab

Not really anuy difference in theory from tire to tire... I have used lots of different mt and mh I have switched to mh lately and I'm happy with the results

96ekb20

thank for the info. so is 73/27 bteer then 70/30