dima

Here's the setup: JBL BP1200.1 amp, and 2 Rockford Fosgate Punch 3 subs....whenever i crank it up a little to loud i blow the fuse....now **** i replased 4 fuses withing 2 hrs.....i cant help it and i dont even turn it up that loud...... now what would be better a battery or a capasitor next to the sub......

bossman032

its either ur wiring is to smalll.

your fuse to dam small

CycoVizion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bossman032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its either ur wiring is to smalll.

your fuse to dam small</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, just get a bigger fuse and it should be alright. the manual for my amp gives a recommended fuse size, you should check yours out.

ReV LiMiT

what gauge wire are you running? i know for a fact, that amp isnt weak. u should have between 4-8 guage wire for that setup. if u get a bigger fuse you should upgrade the wiring too.

dima

4awg to the amp and fuse is 60

ReV LiMiT

well 4gauge wire should be straight. try running 100 for the fuse.

dima

what about a cap or a battery?

dima

EBP_SI

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dima &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about a cap or a battery?</TD></TR></TABLE>

a cap or a battery wont increase the capacity of the fuse. replace it with a 100A and see what happens

dima

well duh i know that but will it help stop the fuse blowing?

b-power

the fuse under the hood should be the same amperage as the fuses in the amp added together or better. also, check your wiring. you could have your subs wired at the wrong ohm load and it keeps making the amp clip out or blow fuses.

dima

the amp has 3(40's) thats 120 where can i find one of those.....its a fuse fuse like the one w/ 2 prongs

fcm

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dima &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the amp has 3(40's) thats 120 where can i find one of those.....its a fuse fuse like the one w/ 2 prongs </TD></TR></TABLE> Replace the fuse holder under the hood with a waffer type, [ANL] and install a 150A ANL fuse, you may evan get away with a 100A 94

bossman032

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dima &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the amp has 3(40's) that's 120 where can i find one of those.....its a fuse fuse like the one w/ 2 prongs </TD></TR></TABLE>


buy my wiring kit you will have 0 guage setup with a 250amp fuse and fuse holder.
if you buy separate it will be around 25-30bucks a good one.

I have the stinger.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1095642

18 ft. - 1/0 Gauge Custom Pro Series Red Power Wire
3 ft. - 1/0 Gauge Custom Pro Series Black Ground Wire
17 ft. - 18 Gauge Blue Remote Turn-On Wire
1 - Custom Pro Series ANL Fuseholder with Mounting Screws
1 - 250 Amp Custom Pro Series Gold-Plated ANL Fuse
1 - Custom Pro Series Gold-Plated 1/0 Gauge Ground Lug
1 - Custom Pro Series Gold-Plated 1/0 Gauge Pro Style Ring Terminal
1 - Pro Style Ring Terminal Cover
Assorted Custom Pro Series Ring Terminals, Spade Lugs, Butt Connectors, and a Snap-In Wire Grommet
7" Black Wire Ties

sorry for thread jacking

EBP_SI

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Replace the fuse holder under the hood with a waffer type, [ANL] and install a 150A ANL fuse, you may evan get away with a 100A 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

150A on 4 awg?

dima

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bossman032 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">buy my wiring kit you will have 0 guage setup with a 250amp fuse and fuse holder.
if you buy separate it will be around 25-30bucks a good one.</TD></TR></TABLE>
0 guage is too thick wont fit in the kickers.... pm me on price plz!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Replace the fuse holder under the hood with a waffer type, [ANL] and install a 150A ANL fuse, you may evan get away with a 100A 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

150A? is that safe on a 4awg as EBP_SI stated.....

dima

By the way today i was by my friends house and we were chillin in a car and a good part in a song came up and i turned up 1 notch and all of the sudden the subs shut off i checked the inline fuse and it was ok then i checked the amp fuses they were ok.... I the proceded to touch the ground to the "+" and didnt get a spark..... This happend to me before i upgraded my subs and i went to 4awg from 8awg and i thought that that was the problem. My ground is connected just like it was before so there still is contact for the ground and the fuse is still intact. I replaced it just to be sure.... WTF is wrong?

fcm

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

150A on 4 awg? </TD></TR></TABLE> Yes, 10ga 60A, 8ga 100A, 4ga 150A, 2ga 250A, 1/0ga 350A , But hey, the great EBP_SI speaks so I must be wrong. 94

EBP_SI

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Yes, 10ga 60A, 8ga 100A, 4ga 150A, 2ga 250A, 1/0ga 350A , But hey, the great EBP_SI speaks so I must be wrong. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Read this...you might learn somethign about proper fusing (take note of the distribution block fusing)

but hey, you've been an installer for 30 years so you must know that already

dont hate me because i'm a dick...hate me because i'm right and you're wrong



Modified by EBP_SI at 10:58 PM 1/3/2005

Benjithx

stop buying fuses, buy a circuit breaker and a yellow top, make sure you have a really good ground

fcm

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EBP_SI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Read this...you might learn somethign about proper fusing (take note of the distribution block fusing)

but hey, you've been an installer for 30 years so you must know that already

dont hate me because i'm a dick...hate me because i'm right and you're wrong

Modified by EBP_SI at 10:58 PM 1/3/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>Gee, I guess that http://www.the12volt.com is wrong also, oh well. Ok I looked it over, the main thing I see is 150A or less is ok for 4ga and if wire is longer then 15 ft you MAY want to limit it to a 125A fuse, also a short on a power wire will blow a fuse almost INSTANTLY Thank you, good site 94


Modified by fcm at 5:26 PM 1/4/2005

EBP_SI

http://www.the12volt.com/info/recwirsz.asp

well...from looking at that page i can see an error right from the start.

table 1 states that for 1400W @ 4feet you should use 4awg.
now looking at table 2, 1400W = 188amps.
on table 3, 4awg is only rated for 150amps?

i dont know...they're basically telling you to exceed the capacity of the wire. those tables dont add up. care to explain that one to me?

its the same for 1000W @ both 4ft & 8ft

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">, also a short on a power wire will blow a fuse almost INSTANTLY Thank you, good site 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah a direct short will blow the fuse instantly. but in the example i gave you, the current flowing wasnt enough to blow the main fuse but did exceed the current rating of the smaller wire after the distrubution block.

EBP_SI

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benjithx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stop buying fuses, buy a circuit breaker and a yellow top, make sure you have a really good ground </TD></TR></TABLE>

dont buy a circuit breaker. use the right size wires with the right size fusing and you'll have no worries. circuit breakers are **** for car audio.

dima

HEY GUYS!!!!! THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR REPLIES! I already fixed the problem and just reading the thread<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benjithx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure you have a really good ground </TD></TR></TABLE> was exactly correct my ground wasent a sufficiant source ........it was a somewhat small bolt which worked fine for my old *** setup of 600watts. I just put it to the bolt on the rear seat like where the seatbelt clips are and it works AMAZING, i blasted the **** out of it and still pounds just that my lights completley turn of LMAO!

Once again HT Saves me! Now if you guys can please contribute your knowledge(sp?) on this thread https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1018585 Pretty much i get 14/18mpg street/hwy and all i gotta say is WHHHHHATTTTAAAA F*CK!

Benjithx

good stuff glad i could help, and good to hear its running smoothly