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Old 03-08-2011, 08:18 AM
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kid of curious to see and hear how this came out, so bump for updates


Sorry, but two big things happened lately, that will prolong finishing of my project:

1. I bought a new apartment, and had to move there,

2. and most importantly , I had a car accident one month ago (I injured my head & left knee) and right now, I am home and I need to stay home for at least one month more...seating & laying all day is killing me already...
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damn sucks to hear dude, I've been pulling up as many sc threads as I can find and by far you have the most comprehensive thread. Also I see you work on industrial diesel, which is funny cuz I do as well. Right now I'm on a job site awaiting some paperwork to start. What company do you work for if you don't mind me asking.
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great work on the build. sorry to hear the bad news, hope you get well soon.
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Very interesting build! In for more.

I hope you make a speedy recovery bro!
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damn sucks to hear dude, I've been pulling up as many sc threads as I can find and by far you have the most comprehensive thread. Also I see you work on industrial diesel, which is funny cuz I do as well. Right now I'm on a job site awaiting some paperwork to start. What company do you work for if you don't mind me asking.

I am trying to put as much as useful information in my thread because I already know that it's extremely hard to find any info about making your own SC kit, especially for Honda D-series...though, on this forum I found great ideas in few threads - especially from threads made by "rmcdaniels".

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Great to here that we are in same industry!

What is your particular job - what type of engines do you repair?

Name of the company where I work is "PBM" (website: www.pbm.hr)

We are small company, but we are distributors for all types of Woodward industrial diesel & turbine governors, and also we do all kind of repairs mainly on big marine low speed 2-stroke diesel engines (Sulzer, Wartsilla, B&W), but sometimes we also repair smaller 4-stroke gensets (CAT, MAK, Daihatsu, Yanmar, Pielstick, etc), turbochargers and remote control systems on big ships.

My particular job is field engineer, so I travel a lot abroad, doing on-site diagnostics, all kind of repairs, troubleshooting and supervising... for me this is great job because I like traveling a lot, and I like to get my hands dirty - for example I had to fly to Vancouver for a 4 days few months ago for one simple intervention that needed only 2 hours to repair - can you imagine, one big ship couldn't move anywhere because one stupid microswitch wasn't adjusted properly
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You came to Vancouver and didn't call me? .
Old 03-11-2011, 06:20 PM
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lol, nice, I work for Fairbanks Morse, and I have a pretty wide range of experience, opposed piston 38D's, Alco, Colt pielsticks, and Mann. It's funny you mentioned Wartsilla, they are opening a shop in my area, and they're apparently trying to take some of our people, which I don't blame them since I hear they pay considerably more. But yeah I also like the travelling, it's funny cuz it's almost like being in the Navy accept the deployments are optional, and much shorter, and the pay is awesome. Last year I was stuck in the shipyard for the better part of the year, but this year's starting to shape up like nuclear powerplants, and hospitals.

Anyways sorry to thread jack, but I am super stoked on your build and am actually considering a similar setup but, and wait for it, I plan on doing it to my b20a, in my 89 prelude. Lol, which is why I love this job cuz I have had to machine, weld, and generallymake a lot of my own parts. And I'm currently building a mild comp, setup with a low to mid boost supercharger setup, no more than 8 psi, just cuz I want something a tad faster on the long stretches in between turns. Sucks to hold your own and lose out in a straight-away.
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I have thought about ding something like this for a long time. Just never had the knowledge or resources to even attempt it.
Old 04-09-2011, 07:31 PM
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Holy crap.... I just read all 6 pages, this thread, this build, your ideas, fabrication, etc, amazing. Subscribed for sure!

PS- You're not helping me try to steer away from going to school for mechanical engineering when I get out of the military.... I think it could lead to such cool jobs, too bad I suck at math.
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goddamn!! i wanna become an engineer now! haha great work! hope to see the finish product .. and sorry about the bad news/delay; at least you're okay though
Old 07-13-2011, 06:06 AM
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Last update after long time - this friday (07/11/2011) engine swap starts finally - hopefully in Monday everything willl be ready for starting
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great news! Ive been wanting to see the completion of this for a long time!
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Originally Posted by Bubba Zanetti
Yes, I'm mechanical engineer and I really like to experiment with forced induction engines in my spare time...

In fact my daily job is also related to FI engines, just the power output is slightly higher (>10 MW) and turbo lag is usually measured in minutes:




That's a nice sized compressor wheel. You in the industrial gas business?
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That's a nice sized compressor wheel. You in the industrial gas business?
Well , sort of - my company is doing mostly big ship engines - 2-stroke mostly, 4-stroke little less, then 4 stroke gensets and similar, big turbochargers and various ship remote control systems.
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subscribed... after wiping the drool off of my monitor
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Did you take any pics when you were taking the gears OFF? That's the one bit of info I really can't find anywhere. ATM I'm trying to swap rotors between a GM M62 and a JRSC (JRSC was bought with rotor damage) When I try to press any portion of the rotor pack, everything just flexes.

The one post I found showed the guy pressing the rotor shaft 1/32" through the rotor, then pushing the rotor+shaft off of the bearing plate. The problem I see with that is pressing one off at a time will bind the rotors. One will essentially twist (in terms of rotor timing) as it moves down.

All I can speculate is the rebuilders have a cup-like gear cradle machined out of solid steel, basicly a fixed-size bearing puller that slides under it.




Anyways I hope everything works out. That post I saw about changing rotors had a follow-up which wasn't good. The guy's rotors ate themselves, along with the case.
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Did you take any pics when you were taking the gears OFF? That's the one bit of info I really can't find anywhere. ATM I'm trying to swap rotors between a GM M62 and a JRSC (JRSC was bought with rotor damage) When I try to press any portion of the rotor pack, everything just flexes.

The one post I found showed the guy pressing the rotor shaft 1/32" through the rotor, then pushing the rotor+shaft off of the bearing plate. The problem I see with that is pressing one off at a time will bind the rotors. One will essentially twist (in terms of rotor timing) as it moves down.

All I can speculate is the rebuilders have a cup-like gear cradle machined out of solid steel, basicly a fixed-size bearing puller that slides under it.


Anyways I hope everything works out. That post I saw about changing rotors had a follow-up which wasn't good. The guy's rotors ate themselves, along with the case.

Concerning removing gears - if I remember correctly , my method was extremely crude & simple : I basically took rotor plate with both rotors and gears in place , put two wooden blocks on a vice, place rotor plate on that wooden blocks and then hit both rotor shafts with big hammer & brass rod (w slightly smaller diameter then rotor shaft) untill both rotors came out...I agree this is far from best possible method, but it worked OK.

If you need some more info, please take a look at this link:

http://www.eatoninside.com/showthread.php?t=2064

This is my thread about repairing my Eaton M62 that I used in this project, maybe you can find some useful stuff there
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then hit both rotor shafts with big hammer & brass rod

Thanks for the reply, but I've tried that. All I have it a few cracked chunks of brass, and now a mushroomed shaft from going up to steel. I also tried pressing the rotor shaft with a 20 ton press, same BS. Nothing moves.

I've also tried resting the underside of the rotor plate (side facing rotors) on the press's steel beams and pressing the shaft. Again, nothing moves on 2 sets of rotor packs.

I guess my next question, how many swings did it take to break them loose?


At this point I'm ready to say f-it and see if any company would be willing to do the swap.
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C'mon' Bubba U busy Man!
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I have one good news and one bad news :-)

The good news - engine started (with some minor problems) and now it is finally breaking-in :-)

The bad news - unfortunately it is breaking-in without supercharger, as I have some small issues with SC tensioner plate

But, I will try to solve issues with SC tensioner plate very soon, as driving this low CR D16 engine on street isn't exactly lot of fun
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thats not bad news thats just plain ole sh*tty news....were all looking forward to seeing some numbers from this thing....especially considering all the work youve put in thus far
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Like I promised (about few years ago), here is the video


Yes, it isn't really the greatest video in the world, but you will get the general idea - this is first idling of my freshly built D16 engine with Eaton M62 cog-belt drive


http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ton_idling.mp4



This cog belt drive really redefines the world "loud"


EDIT:

Due some problems when watching this video, I uploaded it again, but as AVI file:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v3...M62_idling.mp4

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Old 09-26-2011, 08:50 AM
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I can't believe what happened to me - f****n rod end bearings seized this weekend, with just 600 miles on the engine
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that sucks entirely
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That sucks man..... Engine toast or just have to put new bearings in and freshen up the crank? Might have the oil journals "teardropped" if you re-build it just in case...



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