jdmnic91

h.. it's a bigger motor! of course it makes more power over a b.. you can go back and forth all day.. it all depends on set ups and tunes.. every set up and tune is different.. h is cheaper.. b is more popular.. evryone has there passions!!! btw, i'd rather be a (b)itch than a (h)oe!

Bserious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxwsR9ZLv_k

gearhead16

ive got a h project going aswell so hopefull by next spring i will have broken 300whp in a h

Black R

^THIS

it's happening already - the h2b is the lsvtec of 2009. I'm seeing lots of relatively stock h2b swaps making 210whp and 160+ tq quite easily.

alterdcreations

G series and f/k cranks in h motors is the new ls/vtec buddie. h2b is a hole other ballgame

Schlong

seeing this guys 303.5whp H22 go against a 300ish whp K24 (in identical cars) would settle a lot of arguments and curiosity.

that is, until of course the 300whp K24 guy fills up his tank with chevron and drives his car home.

NAH2B

haha alot of you guys dont understand just how equal the H and K motors are.

displacement is what it is, theres nothing special there. the k cylinder head was where the advantage came in....well until just recently

H heads will flow right on par w/ k heads, its all about the know how

and btw, theres nothing stoping me from making 300 w/ my h and driving it around on 93 octane pump gas either, however it may be hard for you unexperienced guys to grasp the thought......

JayWest

oh man i love this thread lol

BigBlock22

why be like the rest...drive an H series and put some hair on ya chest

Schlong

i love how serious you are. that, 2 different 4 cyl honda engines can get you into enough of a tizzy to actually take the time to talk down to someone like that.

i feel pity above anything right now when i think about this.

i suppose the H and K are equal in your mind because they need to be equal right? sort of like the guys who pay for sex every weekend say ****** and girlfriends are the same thing, since, they NEED to be the same thing.

flatblack-h22

a:

NAH2B

like i said, inexperienced = no tech in someones post

zccivicex

iTrader: (1)

K>H>F>B>D

honda_hackett

D-t>K>H>B>F

lol

alterdcreations

I would take a k engine over a h any day of the week but I drive a 94 accord soooo.......and k series isn't even suppose to be in this thread. People get so emotional.

2fastGSR

Ahh so where does my fwd f20c fit into this equation?

I made over 300 with a stock cylinder head , street cams designed for a 2L and went 10s . . .

NAH2B

to each his own, its all a matter of preference. for some the K would be the better choice and for others the H would be the better choice. however it is nice to have all the facts to help you decide which motor would better suit you.

here is a couple questions/circumstances for everyone:

if you were on a limited budget but still wanted to be competitive at the races, suppose you had your choice of two different setups for free.

1st motor being a 300+whp h2B setup, mild buid w/ plenty of room for improvement down the road.

2nd motor being a 300+whp k series, mild build w/ plenty of room for improvement down the road.

which setup would you choose to go racing w/ and why? keep in mind your limited budget.


next question:
same as the first but instead of a limited budget you now have a very large budget to go racing on. which setup would you choose and why?

NAH2B

your setup doesnt count, its the only one in existance haha


actually i dont think we have seen anywhere near what your setup is capable of yet so id say its way too early to judge, however its definately looking just as promising as the H or K if not better.

imo H and K are capable of very similar power and each have their advantages over the other. it really is a matter of preferance at this point and what best suits your budget. sure your gonna make power more easily w/ the K, but at what cost?

jr_deleon

iTrader: (1)

Love both of these setups but....

On a limited budget, id pick the 300+ H2B, for in my opinion the lower cost and when things break it wont be as expensive to replace. And that includes aftermarket parts as well because it seems that some k series aftermarket parts are still costing a kidney (which will let up as time goes by, just like AEM cold air intakes were damn near 300 bucks in 1999) Even if i were going to try and source a long block, a trans etc it wont cost as much or be hard to find

But....

Where money is not an option i would choose the 300+ K series because well it is easier to make power from it and the industry has only scratched the surface of the K even if its been out for what 7 years now? Im sure more parts and such will be out in the future, and their introductory prices might be up high. But a large budget cuts that right up. I literally dont know the limits of either motor though

And mind you guys that im very open minded to all of the motors, but these were the given choices

fatboy1185

an F series from Accords are better than B series IMO.

racebucket_eg

Explain...

fatboy1185

Full bolt ons, an F will make as much horses as a B, with a lot more torque. Try blowing as hard as you can through a straw. Not easy right? Now trying blowing as hard as you can through a garden hose. A lot easier.

GoldLudeRay

good stuff in here,,i actually kinda like the drama in here for once

i think a big h22 with alot of head work is very close to k20 w extensive work as well
but witch motor is more reliable,, i know for a full built car power is more important than realibility,,, and motor will only last a long time if it is built properly,,but my geuss is the new motor has a better chance, it has to last a long time even if it is 12.0.1+cr
i belive honda did make the k series slighty stronger,,but there are so many variables and similarities between all honda motors

here is a queston that still gets me
why dont we see very many h motors on tv??????????and magazines??????
i know there is bisi with the f motor,,,,but where are the high dollar sponsared h22 guys at?

also it may be a rummor but aren't the k motors restricted in the nhra pro class?????????
it is mostly a b series vs restricted k20 class right?


also im a honda motor fan no matter what it is,,,,even the old a20 motor

alterdcreations

I am about to do up a f20b, and see what I can squeeze out of it with boltons

shocker911

honestly i have just started to look in on the H2B since im starting a H2B project this winter and i see that price for the 5,500ish for a K swap you can buy and build a H for under that and still have more power than the K. I love the K swap but for the money i see that the H2B swap is a much better option for the normal honda guy that wants nice power and not blow a hole in his wallet.

with the math i have i can for uner 5k have almost 300whp out a H2B than just a stock K swap. for me that seems more like a better thing than the K swap. But that is me.