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Old 05-10-2008, 04:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pondus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If this B2D adapter makes it possible to match a B18C6 to the transmission/driveline I have in my Realtime 4wd wagon, I would be a happy man. I do have enough parts in storage to build up a motor, and it would be fun to have a 4wd Civic with a B-series.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have run a CRV awd set-up. I do not know if they offered that in Norway
Old 05-10-2008, 07:48 AM
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That's what I've decided to do. I'm going to run my GSR motor with a 99 CRV AWD tranny. I'm just going to mod the driveshaft to mate up to the CRV tranny mounting plate.
Old 05-11-2008, 11:14 AM
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Lots of CRV's here in Norway, but I have heard some stories by people on here about the driveline on the CRV beeing a lot weaker than the older Realtime 4wd system on the wagovan, and there are some success stories of turbo'ed old wagovans and Civic's using the wagovan parts here on H-T. And besides I do have a wagovan already even though it suffered extensive body damage in a roll-over this winter, but the suspension and 4wd system is in good shape. So if this B2D adapter makes it possible to use that system, and connect it to a B series motor that would be sweet, I have the stock B18C6 block for my ITR and a B16A1 motor so I have all I need to put together a nice combo I could put into an old Civic to have fun with. Much cheaper than having to buy a wrecked CRV to take the parts from.
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those rear CRV axles look like pencils. do it right; use the CRV trans, custom-splined transaxle, something like a Nissan 240 rear diff, and real rear axles. cheap? -no, but when was doing it well cheap?
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didn't the CRV AWD trannies only come in auto?
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iirc, the manual AWD CRVs were slightly more abundant overseas.
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Ahahah...Gixxer. Nice try. To the contrary, that was a fact. Try something else to tarnish me.

Have a great weekend.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ahahah...Gixxer. Nice try. To the contrary, that was a fact. Try something else to tarnish me.

Have a great weekend.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, cars I have built are making WELL over 240whp and have zero problems you talk about.

and everyone else seems not to have a problem at that level. Maybe it is you

Nice try though
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I'm going to have to go with bisi!!! I had his h2d in my old car and it never failed as I went with bisi's recomendation on trans selections and modding. 514hp on a turboed h . I do agree 240 I don't think there are that many problems, nor you or I am racing on the professional level! So we may not be encountering the problems the pros encounter. On a side note I have had a almost 300 motor hp h22 using an h serier trans and none of the problems so many have encountered, all with just solid shifter bushings,s.s. clamps every 1 1/2 inches,cry treated gears and carbon syncros and a spool. Never failed til it was stolen
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have run the same gearbox for 4 years with over 480 nine second passes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This should end all arguments on the strength of a d-series transmission.

And as to the original intent of this thread? The question was Why B2D? Well one reason why would be being able to have the torque of a b20 engine for getting around slow traffic without having to rev the **** out of the engine, but the low gear ratio of a vx/cx tranny for superior gas mileage.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slofu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do it right; use the CRV trans, custom-splined transaxle, something like a Nissan 240 rear diff, and real rear axles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Different ratios... You need a rear end with a 2.533 ratio. The CRV's transfer case reduces it so less torque goes to the rear compared to the fronts 4.56 ratio. In other words the rear will always be a secondary (assist) for the front...
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that h2b f2b what ever 2b is a waste of time. bisi runs a houseman tranny built by houseman.ask your self how many people have gone any faster using any of those combos besides him.????????yeah you can get in gear better but does it beneft anything?i know guys who changed to that set up and spent x amount of dollars but in the end saw no benefit. cut this shave that bang this out. if u wanna run run a b tranny use a b motor plain and simple. he is fast for a single cam but i would look into who is faster or fastest and see what they are running
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastcivic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that h2b f2b what ever 2b is a waste of time. bisi runs a houseman tranny built by houseman.ask your self how many people have gone any faster using any of those combos besides him.????????yeah you can get in gear better but does it beneft anything?i know guys who changed to that set up and spent x amount of dollars but in the end saw no benefit. cut this shave that bang this out. if u wanna run run a b tranny use a b motor plain and simple. he is fast for a single cam but i would look into who is faster or fastest and see what they are running
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You have A LOT to learn I almost feel bad for you

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastcivic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah you can get in gear better but does it beneft anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastcivic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that h2b f2b what ever 2b is a waste of time. bisi runs a houseman tranny built by houseman.ask your self how many people have gone any faster using any of those combos besides him.????????yeah you can get in gear better but does it beneft anything?i know guys who changed to that set up and spent x amount of dollars but in the end saw no benefit. cut this shave that bang this out. if u wanna run run a b tranny use a b motor plain and simple. he is fast for a single cam but i would look into who is faster or fastest and see what they are running
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastcivic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that h2b f2b what ever 2b is a waste of time. bisi runs a houseman tranny built by houseman.ask your self how many people have gone any faster using any of those combos besides him.????????yeah you can get in gear better but does it beneft anything?i know guys who changed to that set up and spent x amount of dollars but in the end saw no benefit. cut this shave that bang this out. if u wanna run run a b tranny use a b motor plain and simple. he is fast for a single cam but i would look into who is faster or fastest and see what they are running
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Did i not already explain this?

Then didnt bisi come along and also further explain what i was trying to say as for what other people are doing i could not give a **** less what people are doing only my self i gave you an answer then bisi gave you an answer if you do not like them fine but do not come single me out on here
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kinda late but this gives me hope ^__^ i love how my d series 3rd gear just pulls
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well maybe its for the awd dseries tranny???? so you can have a b instead of a D but the tranny has to be a D iono just an opinion
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Originally Posted by myronwong
well maybe its for the awd dseries tranny???? so you can have a b instead of a D but the tranny has to be a D iono just an opinion
nice bump on the year old thread thats nothing but a 2 page argument.
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Originally Posted by h22crxpwr
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Username 3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No i am pretty sure he meant what he typed. it is on the bisimoto page. B2D.

and i too would like to know why on earth anyone would want to attach a D series transmission to a B series motor, when for the price of the kit you can get a hydro b16 tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

okay thats even more worthless. B2D coming soon huh... just to run a junk d trans... i'm sure they will sell about 1 of those kits....
WELL IF ONLY 1 OF THE KITS ARE SOLD ITLL BE ME THAT BUYS IT. WHY THE HLEE WOULD ANYONE WANT THIS YOU MAY ASK. HMMM I HAVE A BUILT B18B FOR BOOST. I HAVE A 90 RT AWD WAGON 6SP. b18b in a awd D series trans make me the exception. think about all aspects of the conversion b4 you knock it
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High torque, fwd, and short ratios dont go together. Pedal it to keep traction... You might as well make the gear longer, go WOT, make the same torque, and get more speed per gear and less shifts. It's a valid combo especially with boost.




And lets keep this baby alive!
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What about guys who want to swap a b into a ef isnt it hard to find a cable b tranny? Keeping the d tranny in the ef would make a cheaper swap. Also the D16a1 tranny seems to be pretty tough? Even tho it might not make since to one man doesnt mean the same for the other man. Let people spent there money dont hate. I really just want the D2B setup in my car.
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Originally Posted by BLK2DOOR
What about guys who want to swap a b into a ef isnt it hard to find a cable b tranny? Keeping the d tranny in the ef would make a cheaper swap. Also the D16a1 tranny seems to be pretty tough? Even tho it might not make since to one man doesnt mean the same for the other man. Let people spent there money dont hate. I really just want the D2B setup in my car.
very TRUE !!!
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Originally Posted by The Coroner
I looked around and found 2 threads and i am still trying to figure out WHY this combo would be fathomed? at 600 for the kit, thats around the price of a b series tranny.

am i missing something? other than availablity and cost HOW in the hell do D series axles/clutch/flywheel and LS-like gear ratios top the B series stuff?

someone please explain, i HAVE TO BE missing something.
There are multiple reasons someone might do this. The reason I would do it is because of the gearing in the 4 speed manual transmission in the base model 89-91 Civic HB. The gearing ratio is perfect for a quarter mile asphalt race track I race at. The best combo we have found runs this transmission. We are limited to engines that come in the cars we build. The B series transmissions don't have the exact ratio we need. We have run them anyway and done very well (over 50 wins). To get them even better though is the answer to your question. Better gear ratio is why we do it.
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This is a classic thread.
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Originally Posted by A1Scooter1
There are multiple reasons someone might do this. The reason I would do it is because of the gearing in the 4 speed manual transmission in the base model 89-91 Civic HB. The gearing ratio is perfect for a quarter mile asphalt race track I race at. The best combo we have found runs this transmission. We are limited to engines that come in the cars we build. The B series transmissions don't have the exact ratio we need. We have run them anyway and done very well (over 50 wins). To get them even better though is the answer to your question. Better gear ratio is why we do it.
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