Who has the fastest SS/AM H-series in the USA
09-08-2010, 09:47 AM
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whp *** hat. crank horse power doesn't tell much when trying to figure in mph and et's without factoring in drive train loss.
I stated the were calculators NOT real world examples or some BS.
a calculator will get you close. If you did not notice nothing about gearing, tire size etc was taken into account so STFU and GTFO.
I stated the were calculators NOT real world examples or some BS.
a calculator will get you close. If you did not notice nothing about gearing, tire size etc was taken into account so STFU and GTFO.
Why post calculator numbers then if they're only "close"? Obviously, these online calculators have a wide margin.
09-08-2010, 10:07 AM
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I No one can stay #1 all the time, and some humility would benefit your knowledge. Me personally, if someone is a threat to my times, I try to step up and compete on a higher level, not cry about things being impossible, when they are quite possible. I'll tell you this right now, just in talking with Andre, they don't do the bolt-on, off-the-shelf, skunk2, jg, wiseco builds we do here - his builder innovates and builds parts from scratch - BETTER parts than you & I. I'll be aiming for 10's next season as well, but I'm not going to start calling out people I don't even know saying they're dishonest when I don't even know the details of their overall setup.
If anyone wants to get technical we can go there as well.
If anyone wants to get technical we can go there as well.
As for the builder, I believe 100% that this place stands out above the rest. It's not Andre's engine that has me convinced, but the fact they qualified to make it into the Engine Masters Challenge. The EMC is an annual competition among engine builders to make the most overall power and torque over a limited RPM with pump gas. You really have to think outside of the box since you can only turn so much RPM, peak power is basically worthless, and it all has to be done on the same Shell pump gas. I doubt there are many of you who are familar with it since it's exclusively domestic V8's, but I can assure you that to make it in this competition requires a deep understanding of internal combustion engines which transcends basic architecture and design. There are hundreds of builders that enter, but maybe 10% of them actually qualify to compete. This builder making the cut in that kind of competition speaks volumes as to his abilities.
09-08-2010, 10:45 AM
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I wish I had the funds to support Andre for a trip to E-town. Andre, you'll fun faster on this track, and you'd probably walk Randy - it would be very close, and you're even making about 30whp less, just on a better chassis setup.
Randy, I'm actually disappointed in your posts and spouting off at the mouth about experience this and that. If you want to start a urinating contest, you're going to lose to a lot of people. Andre is legit, I've spoken to him before, and he's cool, honest, open, and VERY experienced himself; he's not going to waste time telling you all about it because I assume he's more mature than that. Look at it this way, I'M telling you everything he's said about his setup is true, and if he's making ~30whp & more importantly ~20lb.ft less than you and running 10.9X, what do you think his car could do with the same power as yours in his chassis? There's always someone bigger and better, I mean look at Brad - the guy you get your advice from - you are not the final authority on h22's, by far. I mean, we could talk to Lookofsky and countless others if we want a faster H-series.
No one can stay #1 all the time, and some humility would benefit your knowledge. Me personally, if someone is a threat to my times, I try to step up and compete on a higher level, not cry about things being impossible, when they are quite possible. I'll tell you this right now, just in talking with Andre, they don't do the bolt-on, off-the-shelf, skunk2, jg, wiseco builds we do here - his builder innovates and builds parts from scratch - BETTER parts than you & I. I'll be aiming for 10's next season as well, but I'm not going to start calling out people I don't even know saying they're dishonest when I don't even know the details of their overall setup.
If anyone wants to get technical we can go there as well.
Andre, I thought you were going with the new Crane Cams we talked about earlier in the year? Were you able to get them?
Randy, I'm actually disappointed in your posts and spouting off at the mouth about experience this and that. If you want to start a urinating contest, you're going to lose to a lot of people. Andre is legit, I've spoken to him before, and he's cool, honest, open, and VERY experienced himself; he's not going to waste time telling you all about it because I assume he's more mature than that. Look at it this way, I'M telling you everything he's said about his setup is true, and if he's making ~30whp & more importantly ~20lb.ft less than you and running 10.9X, what do you think his car could do with the same power as yours in his chassis? There's always someone bigger and better, I mean look at Brad - the guy you get your advice from - you are not the final authority on h22's, by far. I mean, we could talk to Lookofsky and countless others if we want a faster H-series.
No one can stay #1 all the time, and some humility would benefit your knowledge. Me personally, if someone is a threat to my times, I try to step up and compete on a higher level, not cry about things being impossible, when they are quite possible. I'll tell you this right now, just in talking with Andre, they don't do the bolt-on, off-the-shelf, skunk2, jg, wiseco builds we do here - his builder innovates and builds parts from scratch - BETTER parts than you & I. I'll be aiming for 10's next season as well, but I'm not going to start calling out people I don't even know saying they're dishonest when I don't even know the details of their overall setup.
If anyone wants to get technical we can go there as well.
Andre, I thought you were going with the new Crane Cams we talked about earlier in the year? Were you able to get them?
as for posting build specs, as someone mentioned already there have been several guys over the years who post specs and tips/tricks. i have posted several build threads and been openly honest in all of them. i dont hide anything about my builds from anyone. others are not so open about sharing secrets and honestly im ok w/ that because its costly and time consuming learning over the years and why should anyone have to give away what they have worked so hard to learn?
in this case the owner/driver doesnt know exactly what was done to the motor from his own admission. he did tell me he believes the crank was lightened and the rod length was changed along w/ custom pistons. other than that he doesnt know exactly what they did w/ the bottom end. he's also not sure on flow numbers of the head either.
look at the header, that could very well be the reason tq is so high but at the same time those long primaries are limiting his hp so who knows what the hell is going on lol
what i believe is that YES the power level required to run this et in a 2000 lb street chassis is POSSIBLE on a 90 stroke, however it would be very difficult to pull it off.
im not completely sold hes on a 90mm at this point but thats my right to form my own opinion just as he has the right to post his setup w/o listing all of the specs. if you guys want to call me jealous, rude or unproffesional for it thats ok w/ me. like i said i speak my mind and will always do so.
09-08-2010, 12:42 PM
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see this is the problem your not understanding when it comes to this website. There are certain things that alot of us already know when it comes to building H's motors. NAH2B is trying to ask and as well as everyone else is what kind of piston is it that you have or stroke. Cause we are making custom pistons and customs setups that would give the same stroke as a 95mm. we are just wondering if thats what was done?
The thing is that everyone is trying to help everyone else out so they can all go faster and harder. So its like saying screw you I only know and i wont tell. That is what causes our sport not to grow
The thing is that everyone is trying to help everyone else out so they can all go faster and harder. So its like saying screw you I only know and i wont tell. That is what causes our sport not to grow
09-08-2010, 02:43 PM
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As do I, and I corrected your post for you.
09-08-2010, 03:31 PM
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CC was on here like 3-4 years ago trying to figure out which direction a B series spins and brad has been heard saying its ok if the valve doesnt seal in the seat well without the spring, because the spring will pull it flush. (supposedly)
the internet is a comic book, man. dont get too much into it. there is a reason why certain shops are all over the net trying to drum up business, and some are nowhere near the net and have blocks/heads lined up out of the door.
the internet is a comic book, man. dont get too much into it. there is a reason why certain shops are all over the net trying to drum up business, and some are nowhere near the net and have blocks/heads lined up out of the door.
09-08-2010, 03:36 PM
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umm you must have missed the part where the op said he didnt build the motor, and he doesnt know anyhting about engine building.
so no it wanst difficult for AH racing to pull it off because AH racing didnt pull it off and doesnt even know exactly what was done to the engine. the builder is the only one who knows exactly. and if it was pulled off at all it was raceheads that did it, not AH racing by his own admission. so you can stop correcting my posts and swinging from Andre's nuts now please
so no it wanst difficult for AH racing to pull it off because AH racing didnt pull it off and doesnt even know exactly what was done to the engine. the builder is the only one who knows exactly. and if it was pulled off at all it was raceheads that did it, not AH racing by his own admission. so you can stop correcting my posts and swinging from Andre's nuts now please
09-08-2010, 03:42 PM
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CC was on here like 3-4 years ago trying to figure out which direction a B series spins and brad has been heard saying its ok if the valve doesnt seal in the seat well without the spring, because the spring will pull it flush. (supposedly)
the internet is a comic book, man. dont get too much into it. there is a reason why certain shops are all over the net trying to drum up business, and some are nowhere near the net and have blocks/heads lined up out of the door.
the internet is a comic book, man. dont get too much into it. there is a reason why certain shops are all over the net trying to drum up business, and some are nowhere near the net and have blocks/heads lined up out of the door.
do you know for sure weather or not the spring will seat a valve which is not concentric to the seat if stem to guide clearance allows it? im not saying it will or wont. and im not saying Brad's thoughts on the matter. im simply asking if you know from experience weather it will or wont?
as for guys who do and dont post on the internet, you dont see Brad on here anywhere trying to make claims or sell anything. you very rarely see him on here at all and prolly only a couple times a year if that. he DOES have work lined up out the door, i know this because i have seen it w/ my own eyes recently. I also know alot of the fastest guys in this sport are running his heads even though some of them dont ever mention it. if you know what i know about Brad and RLZ you wouldnt send your cylinder head anywhere else period.
not sure where you heard or saw the coment you stated earlier, but i helped Brad cut my own valvejob and witnessed my own cylinder head being cnc ported w/ design technology that only 2 or 3 places in the world know how to use. i can assure you RLZ is fully outfitted w/ top of the line high end equiptment and Brad has all the experience needed to take full advantage of it all. everything there is cnc, even the surfacing machine is cnc. i can assure you every valvejob brad cuts (also cnc) is seating. he checks each valve and seat afterwards to make certain of it. not that he even needs to w/ the equiptment hes working with, but he does it anyway just like you would expect a good machinist to do.
im not trying to sell anything here. i would simply hate to see you start bashing someone who has far more experience than any of us here, w/o having the proper information to back up your impression or thoughts of this person.
i do agree w/ you about the internet. i am growing increasingly tired of wasting my time on here. i could be accomplishing so much more if i wasnt on here weather it be for answering questions, arguing, posting build threads or new info i have come across, checking the drag event schedule to prepare my race schedule for the season, post race results after each event, etc, etc.
very rarely do i come here to aquire tech info for myself. infact i cant remember the last time i have asked a tech question or searched for something i didnt know. however i do hand out ALOT of info and give ALOT of help on here. but its situations like how this thread has turned out which will ultimately be the reason i leave this site permanently. im not the one here asking questions trying to figure out how to put my setup together or make it work. but im the one always giving out info and helping others. i ask a few questions of this guy and explain how hard it is to achieve what hes claiming and everyone jumps on me for it. i have a domestic guy who is new to the import world and deosnt know me from a hole in the wall questioning me to no end. and a hanful of others, most of which have come to me for advice in the past, getting upset me for questioning this guy.
and from time to time i see people ask "why have all the knowledgable guys dissapeared from this site?" it has become crystal clear to me exactly why they have left. if you put 20+ years of work in to gain the knowledge you have and get to where you are would you waste your time here putting up kids who barely know the basics questioning you constantly or arguing w/ you?
ht is way more of a headache than a resource or hobby for those who are well past the point of needing ht....
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exactly and Tony is one of the very few who actually advertise the fact that hes running Brads head. look at any of guys at the top of the game, its a safe bet they are running Brad's ****.
09-08-2010, 05:59 PM
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umm you must have missed the part where the op said he didnt build the motor, and he doesnt know anyhting about engine building.
so no it wanst difficult for AH racing to pull it off because AH racing didnt pull it off and doesnt even know exactly what was done to the engine. the builder is the only one who knows exactly. and if it was pulled off at all it was raceheads that did it, not AH racing by his own admission. so you can stop correcting my posts and swinging from Andre's nuts now please
so no it wanst difficult for AH racing to pull it off because AH racing didnt pull it off and doesnt even know exactly what was done to the engine. the builder is the only one who knows exactly. and if it was pulled off at all it was raceheads that did it, not AH racing by his own admission. so you can stop correcting my posts and swinging from Andre's nuts now please
09-08-2010, 06:03 PM
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09-08-2010, 06:35 PM
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Swinging? LOL, you mention that he did not assemble the motor as if it's something you did? It's funny, I wonder how many here know that you were not the one in Howard's shop degreeing in the cams when I swung thru the shop there - that would be Brad that did that at RLZ where you sent your motor - so, I guess Randy Owens gets no credit, and you should not claim fastest/quickest H22 street in the country - that would belong to RLZ, not you; they did the work/research AND assembly, not you. Good luck trying to claim otherwise, I saw it with my own eyes when they set your head up special to get the cams degreed right. So maybe you could learn a lesson in humility by not putting Andre down since he's in the same situation as you.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
that post right there tells me you have 100% absolutely NO CLUE about anything LOL!!
first off i have NEVER had my motor @ RLZ, only my cylinder head. so i dont know whos motor you saw in ther but in definately wasnt mine. you know they do build all types of engines there so do you think in that peanut sized brain of yours that there could be the possibility that they were working on someone elses H motor you dumb fvck?? yes im pissed after reading that. you have the nerve to tell me who built my engine as if you knew. and have the nerve to tell me Andre is in the same boat as me...WRONG. i built my engine, i didnt have anyone build it for me. and you have the nerve to say i get no credit....WRONG, i earned the credit of building my engine and know exactly whats inside and how it went together and what clearances i have. Andre knows none of this. and its people like you which are the reason i WILL NOT post anymore build threads or dynograghs or contribute anymore information to this forum. other H series guys can thank you for that. how does it feel to know you will never be where im at or accomplish what i have?
i assemble ALL of my own engines as any of my friends will gladly tell you. i use all of my own tools to do so and i do it all in my friends garage, NOT @ RLZ. although theres no reason NOT to have Howard assemble my engines, i simply do it myself because i want to and have tons of research and development into different bottom end setups over the past 10 yrs. why would i want to have anyone else assemble my engines?
Brad/RLZ does most of my cylinder head work, THATS IT. he doesnt even assemble my heads, i do all the valvetrain assembly myself as well as valveseals etc. maybe if you were good friends w/ them like you make yourself sound, they would have told you this if you had asked. but i get the feeling you prolly came stubling through their doors and happen to see an H motor in there and said to yourself "Y0 dat must be Randy,s motor right der s0n, that bitch gonna run Y0" and then prolly asked if they had any clear tailights or body kits in stock for your whip. thats prolly more along the lines of how it went down im certain.
so first you ride my jock, then you ride Andre's jock, and now you make yourself sound like you hang out @ RLZ riding their jocks as well LOL!!! your just one big jock rider who doesnt really have a clue about whats going on.
actually let me correct myself, i did bring my bare block w/ me down to RLZ for the weekend last month, but it was only because i picked it up in virginia from the machinist who bored and honed it for me on the way down to NC to hang out w/ Brad for the weekend while we worked on my cylinder head and ONLY my cylinder head. Brad didnt even take one look at my bare block im sure since hes seen a thousand or so of them. all we did was port my head, cut the valvejob and resurfaced the head. i checked my V2V clearance while i was there to make sure the valves were in the head enough before i left, but nothing we did involved the block whatsoever.
you my friend are a misguided, jock riding, wannabe who has nothing better to do than act like they know whats going on in this industry. if need be i will simply have EVERYONE who knows me including Brad and Howard blow this thread up confirming i do infact do all of my own work right down to makling my own intake and exhaust manifolds. however i dont think anyone else doubts this to be true other than you because you thought you saw something which you clearly didnt.
and btw if RLZ did assemble my block, i would definately give them FULL credit for it. however that is not the case. although they could probably get more power out of it than i have
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09-08-2010, 06:42 PM
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Hi , just to put my two senses, i race Andreh at the track with my SS/AM K-24 & he is telling you as it is. Raceheads has been porting heads & building motors since the 70's...
People from California send him "Hemi" heads to be ported so i don't think he is ready to share his engine building tactics (Its his bread & butter) just makes comon sense, Right?
Over 30years of experience can be applied to V8,V6, 4 cylinder, H, K, B.... it doesn't make a diffrence, he applied his knowledge in this H motor & this is what power it made. (They dont call him MR. HP for nothing)
P:S. he is using a quick put together intake & his new cam set-up should get him at least 20WHP more. O NO You might be accusing him of having a V8. LOL
I hope he does go to NJ, its guys like this that could revive the intrest in B & H motors (Not just K series). By the way best trend i read in a long time.
People from California send him "Hemi" heads to be ported so i don't think he is ready to share his engine building tactics (Its his bread & butter) just makes comon sense, Right?
Over 30years of experience can be applied to V8,V6, 4 cylinder, H, K, B.... it doesn't make a diffrence, he applied his knowledge in this H motor & this is what power it made. (They dont call him MR. HP for nothing)
P:S. he is using a quick put together intake & his new cam set-up should get him at least 20WHP more. O NO You might be accusing him of having a V8. LOL
I hope he does go to NJ, its guys like this that could revive the intrest in B & H motors (Not just K series). By the way best trend i read in a long time.
09-08-2010, 06:54 PM
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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
that post right there tells me you have 100% absolutely NO CLUE about anything LOL!!
first off i have NEVER had my motor @ RLZ, only my cylinder head. so i dont know whos motor you saw in ther but in definately wasnt mine. you know they do build all types of engines there so do you think in that peanut sized brain of yours that there could be the possibility that they were working on someone elses H motor you dumb fvck??
i assemble ALL of my own engines as any of my friends will gladly tell you. i use all of my own tools to do so and i do it all in my friends garage, NOT @ RLZ. although theres no reason NOT to have Howard assemble my engines, i simply do it myself because i want to and have tons of research and development into different bottom end setups over the past 10 yrs. why would i want to have anyone else assemble my engines?
Brad/RLZ does most of my cylinder head work, THATS IT. he doesnt even assemble my heads, i do all the valvetrain assembly myself as well as valveseals etc. maybe if you were good friends w/ them like you make yourself sound, they would have told you this if you had asked. but i get the feeling you prolly came stubling through their doors and happen to see an H motor in there and said to yourself "Y0 dat must be Randy,s motor right der s0n, that bitch gonna run Y0" and then prolly asked if they had any clear tailights or body kits in stock for your whip. thats prolly more along the lines of how it went down im certain.
so first you ride my jock, then you ride Andre's jock, and now you make yourself sound like you hang out @ RLZ riding their jocks as well LOL!!! your just one big jock rider who doesnt really have a clue about whats going on.
actually let me correct myself, i did bring my bare block w/ me down to RLZ for the weekend last month, but it was only because i picked it up in virginia from the machinist who bored and honed it for me on the way down to NC to hang out w/ Brad for the weekend while we worked on my cylinder head and ONLY my cylinder head. Brad didnt even take one look at my bare block im sure since hes seen a thousand or so of them. all we did was port my head, cut the valvejob and resurfaced the head. i checked my V2V clearance while i was there to make sure the valves were in the head enough before i left, but nothing we did involved the block whatsoever.
you my friend are a misguided, jock riding, wannabe who has nothing better to do than act like they know whats going on in this industry. if need be i will simply have EVERYONE who knows me including Brad and Howard blow this thread up confirming i do infact do all of my own work right down to makling my own intake and exhaust manifolds. however i dont think anyone else doubts this to be true other than you because you thought you saw something which you clearly didnt.
and btw if RLZ did assemble my block, i would definately give them FULL credit for it. however that is not the case. although they could probably get more power out of it than i have
that post right there tells me you have 100% absolutely NO CLUE about anything LOL!!
first off i have NEVER had my motor @ RLZ, only my cylinder head. so i dont know whos motor you saw in ther but in definately wasnt mine. you know they do build all types of engines there so do you think in that peanut sized brain of yours that there could be the possibility that they were working on someone elses H motor you dumb fvck??
i assemble ALL of my own engines as any of my friends will gladly tell you. i use all of my own tools to do so and i do it all in my friends garage, NOT @ RLZ. although theres no reason NOT to have Howard assemble my engines, i simply do it myself because i want to and have tons of research and development into different bottom end setups over the past 10 yrs. why would i want to have anyone else assemble my engines?
Brad/RLZ does most of my cylinder head work, THATS IT. he doesnt even assemble my heads, i do all the valvetrain assembly myself as well as valveseals etc. maybe if you were good friends w/ them like you make yourself sound, they would have told you this if you had asked. but i get the feeling you prolly came stubling through their doors and happen to see an H motor in there and said to yourself "Y0 dat must be Randy,s motor right der s0n, that bitch gonna run Y0" and then prolly asked if they had any clear tailights or body kits in stock for your whip. thats prolly more along the lines of how it went down im certain.
so first you ride my jock, then you ride Andre's jock, and now you make yourself sound like you hang out @ RLZ riding their jocks as well LOL!!! your just one big jock rider who doesnt really have a clue about whats going on.
actually let me correct myself, i did bring my bare block w/ me down to RLZ for the weekend last month, but it was only because i picked it up in virginia from the machinist who bored and honed it for me on the way down to NC to hang out w/ Brad for the weekend while we worked on my cylinder head and ONLY my cylinder head. Brad didnt even take one look at my bare block im sure since hes seen a thousand or so of them. all we did was port my head, cut the valvejob and resurfaced the head. i checked my V2V clearance while i was there to make sure the valves were in the head enough before i left, but nothing we did involved the block whatsoever.
you my friend are a misguided, jock riding, wannabe who has nothing better to do than act like they know whats going on in this industry. if need be i will simply have EVERYONE who knows me including Brad and Howard blow this thread up confirming i do infact do all of my own work right down to makling my own intake and exhaust manifolds. however i dont think anyone else doubts this to be true other than you because you thought you saw something which you clearly didnt.
and btw if RLZ did assemble my block, i would definately give them FULL credit for it. however that is not the case. although they could probably get more power out of it than i have
So, you decided to lie in this thread saying you did this and that, when as I said, Howard and Brad set up your head and assembled the valve train and installed your cams for you; I saw the freaking thing in front of me when I was told about it - Randy Owens, that would be you.
If you want to get Brad or Howard in here to back up your false claims, go ahead, I say you'll chicken out and you won't do it, because they haven't been dishonest in the past, and I doubt they'll go out of their way to back up your dishonesty now.
Btw, when you want to argue with someone about who's the jock rider, you might not want to pick the person who you COPIED your intake manifold plenum from - mine was built first, then you tried to duplicate it - who's the jockrider now chief?
^^^ Yeah, that would be my intake sitting in the race car in my garage right now. Running 11's with only 3 track days out so far. Look familiar? It should, since Brad built it for my engine, and then you liked it so much you decided to try to copy it. Jockrider much?
The reason HT is not what it once was is because of jerks like yourself who aim to be the best, fail, and then spout off about who you know and where you've been. Andre has told me pretty much every detail I asked about the internals of his build when it was in the EG hatch shell, and you say he won't tell you or "share" knowledge with others, LOL, look at how you approached him, like a total jerk.... I would lie to you like he did too, and say I don't know anything about the motor, go ask someone else - I wouldn't tell some hater that mocked my grammar for being from outside the U.S. anything about my build specs knowing good and well that I made more power out of my engine than he could after he calls me a liar with no foundation for doing so.
Carry on, since your my jockrider copying my h22's intake mani plenum - I'll let you vent your frustrations now that a little truth is out in the open for others to see about ya.
09-08-2010, 07:20 PM
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Re: Who has the fastest SS/AM H-series in the USA
Orly? I have no idea? Seems you are getting a little jumpy over it if it's inaccurate. I call bull on everything you just said. You gotta go name-calling over some jock rider? LOL, when I walk into RLZ, which is 30mins away from my house by the way, I don't go looking through the dozens of blocks on the floor wondering who's is who. They had over 20 sleeved b-series blocks in there last month. You are not the only loser who goes to RLZ, anyone who wants the best in cylinder heads goes there. Now, that we have that out of the way, I'm going to make a clear statement for you since it seems your education is lacking and you appear to like calling someone names when your vocabulary fails. You are a liar. Why? Because Howard Shoaf told me all about your sk3 cams, not last month, but about a year ago or maybe longer, it's been forever, and he told me about it when I was in touch with Brian at Skunk2 looking into getting them for my h22.
So, you decided to lie in this thread saying you did this and that, when as I said, Howard and Brad set up your head and assembled the valve train and installed your cams for you; I saw the freaking thing in front of me when I was told about it - Randy Owens, that would be you.
If you want to get Brad or Howard in here to back up your false claims, go ahead, I say you'll chicken out and you won't do it, because they haven't been dishonest in the past, and I doubt they'll go out of their way to back up your dishonesty now.
Btw, when you want to argue with someone about who's the jock rider, you might not want to pick the person who you COPIED your intake manifold plenum from - mine was built first, then you tried to duplicate it - who's the jockrider now chief?
^^^ Yeah, that would be my intake sitting in the race car in my garage right now. Running 11's with only 3 track days out so far. Look familiar? It should, since Brad built it for my engine, and then you liked it so much you decided to try to copy it. Jockrider much?
The reason HT is not what it once was is because of jerks like yourself who aim to be the best, fail, and then spout off about who you know and where you've been. Andre has told me pretty much every detail I asked about the internals of his build when it was in the EG hatch shell, and you say he won't tell you or "share" knowledge with others, LOL, look at how you approached him, like a total jerk.... I would lie to you like he did too, and say I don't know anything about the motor, go ask someone else - I wouldn't tell some hater that mocked my grammar for being from outside the U.S. anything about my build specs knowing good and well that I made more power out of my engine than he could after he calls me a liar with no foundation for doing so.
Carry on, since your my jockrider copying my h22's intake mani plenum - I'll let you vent your frustrations now that a little truth is out in the open for others to see.
So, you decided to lie in this thread saying you did this and that, when as I said, Howard and Brad set up your head and assembled the valve train and installed your cams for you; I saw the freaking thing in front of me when I was told about it - Randy Owens, that would be you.
If you want to get Brad or Howard in here to back up your false claims, go ahead, I say you'll chicken out and you won't do it, because they haven't been dishonest in the past, and I doubt they'll go out of their way to back up your dishonesty now.
Btw, when you want to argue with someone about who's the jock rider, you might not want to pick the person who you COPIED your intake manifold plenum from - mine was built first, then you tried to duplicate it - who's the jockrider now chief?
^^^ Yeah, that would be my intake sitting in the race car in my garage right now. Running 11's with only 3 track days out so far. Look familiar? It should, since Brad built it for my engine, and then you liked it so much you decided to try to copy it. Jockrider much?
The reason HT is not what it once was is because of jerks like yourself who aim to be the best, fail, and then spout off about who you know and where you've been. Andre has told me pretty much every detail I asked about the internals of his build when it was in the EG hatch shell, and you say he won't tell you or "share" knowledge with others, LOL, look at how you approached him, like a total jerk.... I would lie to you like he did too, and say I don't know anything about the motor, go ask someone else - I wouldn't tell some hater that mocked my grammar for being from outside the U.S. anything about my build specs knowing good and well that I made more power out of my engine than he could after he calls me a liar with no foundation for doing so.
Carry on, since your my jockrider copying my h22's intake mani plenum - I'll let you vent your frustrations now that a little truth is out in the open for others to see.
OMG you really dont have a clue and im just sitting here laughing right now
ok first i want to get this out of the way. i never once made a negative remark about Andre's grammar or how he spoke. i did say "this is making my brain hurt" and i said it because of all the arguing. so your accusation there are also misguided and FALSE
next id like to point out the fact that intake manifold wasnt made for you but for the old owner who you purchased the car from. hes the one who put all the work into that car and engine along w/ RLZ so it seems you are the one whos in the same boat as Andre here pal. also i didnt copy ****. does my manifold look like yours? hell no, only to an inexperienced person such as yourself. you think simply because it has some rolled and bent aluminum that its a copy of yours? LOL are you serious? and i didnt "try" to duplicate ****, i designed a better intake manifold than that and even Brad will tell you this himself.
as for you believing you saw my engine being built or degreed there, this is truly funny. i cant even believe im taking the time to sit here and yet again explain things to everyone in my own defense from a kid like you who doesnt know what they are talking about.
so if Brad and Howard tell you i build my own engines does that make them liars as well? what if Jake and Ryne and Jeff and Scott and Rosko and several of my other friends who arent on here tell you i build my own ****? are they all liars too? hell even my enemies will tell you i build my own engines LOL
you dont know me from ****, but its obvious you wish you knew me. you prolly have posters of my car all over your the walls of you room LOL!!
i remeber you riding my jock and even threadjacdking my build thread to ask questions and tell me about the life story of you and your car and post pics of it as well. oh well, i guess im nolonger your idol
oh and btw what exactly did Andre lie to me about? ~the bold statement from you in the quote
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09-08-2010, 07:50 PM
#170
Re: Who has the fastest SS/AM H-series in the USA
here are some pics i took while assembling my 89x95 engine a couple yrs ago. why dont you tell eveyone at home how many lifts RLZ have in their shop?
thats what i thought.....
the shop in these pics is where i used to work at and do all of the work on my engine/car out of. this is where i have aways assembled my own engines up until this year, now im working out of a friends garage and am assembling my new engine there. alot of you have prolly already seen the pics.
point being, this guys is full of **** and everyone knows it. im not sure if he knows it though
thats what i thought.....
the shop in these pics is where i used to work at and do all of the work on my engine/car out of. this is where i have aways assembled my own engines up until this year, now im working out of a friends garage and am assembling my new engine there. alot of you have prolly already seen the pics.
point being, this guys is full of **** and everyone knows it. im not sure if he knows it though
09-08-2010, 07:53 PM
#171
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Re: Who has the fastest SS/AM H-series in the USA
Randy has NEVER had his block at RLZ. I know both Randy and Brad.
Brad has done extensive work on Randy's head. Randy has even travelled to Brad's shop in order to have some things done. However, his shortblock was never there.
Your accusations are false. Sorry.
Brad has done extensive work on Randy's head. Randy has even travelled to Brad's shop in order to have some things done. However, his shortblock was never there.
Your accusations are false. Sorry.
09-08-2010, 07:56 PM
#172
Re: Who has the fastest SS/AM H-series in the USA
your right Blake, its not worth wasting my time or cluttering this guys thread anymore so than it already has been.
this 9k guy obviously couldnt build an engine to save his life so hes trying to belittle me so that his new idol Andre wont seem any less to him when compared to me.
screw it im going to bed
09-08-2010, 08:13 PM
#173
Re: Who has the fastest SS/AM H-series in the USA
ok i think i might get introuble for this but you know what i dont give a **** anymore.
READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY Randy has always built his motors. The machining work for his head has been done by RLZ, but not assy at all.
Look this f--king thread has got out of hand already.Everyone has asked the same questions about giving a lil more detail of the build. You said that Randy came wrong to him. Grow the fu-- up already. Everyone else has asked also so your going to say that we also asked in a bad way please your really got to be kidding me. Look i dont give a **** if its a 90mm stroke we all a know you cant do that much tq with out having extended rods and longer custom made pistons which is pretty much the same thing as a 95mm crank which would have been cheaper
To the op good for you and your motor congrats and have fun keep going at it and try to get the new h22 record if you can.
To Randy i understand the idiots like this give a bad taste in your mouth, but like you mentioned before jeff, rosko, q16, rayne,jake, me and all the other guys that you have assisted in building there motors thank you and keep helping each other out.
To the other person enough with the arguing already. Lets say you have this special mainfold first it still doesn't mean anything cause someone improved on it and took it to help them get the fastest time in the country. You did nothing with it so stop crying please.
Enough with the bit--ing and moaning already and lets take our issues to the track and solve them there. Thats where everything will come out soon or later period.
Rant over
READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY Randy has always built his motors. The machining work for his head has been done by RLZ, but not assy at all.
Look this f--king thread has got out of hand already.Everyone has asked the same questions about giving a lil more detail of the build. You said that Randy came wrong to him. Grow the fu-- up already. Everyone else has asked also so your going to say that we also asked in a bad way please your really got to be kidding me. Look i dont give a **** if its a 90mm stroke we all a know you cant do that much tq with out having extended rods and longer custom made pistons which is pretty much the same thing as a 95mm crank which would have been cheaper
To the op good for you and your motor congrats and have fun keep going at it and try to get the new h22 record if you can.
To Randy i understand the idiots like this give a bad taste in your mouth, but like you mentioned before jeff, rosko, q16, rayne,jake, me and all the other guys that you have assisted in building there motors thank you and keep helping each other out.
To the other person enough with the arguing already. Lets say you have this special mainfold first it still doesn't mean anything cause someone improved on it and took it to help them get the fastest time in the country. You did nothing with it so stop crying please.
Enough with the bit--ing and moaning already and lets take our issues to the track and solve them there. Thats where everything will come out soon or later period.
Rant over
09-08-2010, 08:13 PM
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Re: Who has the fastest SS/AM H-series in the USA
your right Blake, its not worth wasting my time or cluttering this guys thread anymore so than it already has been.
this 9k guy obviously couldnt build an engine to save his life so hes trying to belittle me so that his new idol Andre wont seem any less to him when compared to me.
screw it im going to bed
this 9k guy obviously couldnt build an engine to save his life so hes trying to belittle me so that his new idol Andre wont seem any less to him when compared to me.
screw it im going to bed
im drinking a corona for you buddy! bout time to go to bed and wake up dreading having to turn wrenches on mustangs and camaros all day.....man if i could just tune everyday i'd never get burnt out.
been almost a year of spending money and not having a running car....
