Uncle Dave

Its good to see posts like this so that people become alot more aware as to bad shops operating and some shonky backyard e-mechanic's that are out there

the171

bah. most of here are not mechanics, or even half assed DIYers. We think Hondas are cool and want to try some performance mods. Live 'n learn man. Most of the things I've learned in life were due to previous mistakes. I can pretty well guarantee that the advanced engine builders here have made similar mistakes to installing a piston backwards, and learned the hard way.

props to the owner for trying. I'm sure once these issues are fixed it will be a fun ride.

00Red_SiR

can we add this post to the pictures? Advanced engine builders have all installed pistons backwards and that's how they learned??? Do you understand how someone becomes an "advanced engine builder"? It's not through trial and error I can assure you. Common sense would have solved the majority of what we see in those pictures.....aparently it's not "common" enough.

cannan

Live and you learn is true in certain situations like basic DIY that won't blow up a motor, not in this case.

That engine work is inexcusable and the poor wiring in the second picture could be pointed out by a 3 year old!!!

The engine was supposedly "built" by a shop that I would assume is in the business of engine builds. The incorrect installation of pistons should not be an acceptable mistake when your paying someone who represents themselves as an engine builder or offers engine building services.

Its typical of people not doing their homework and going to first shop within 5 miles of their home. That is how you live and learn the hard way. To bad he's probably out X amount of $$ from the first build

egb18c5

dont even have to do that. this goes to show people who wants their motor to be built, or need any type of service done, to carry it to a reputable shop, not your average mechanic who barely even does rebuilds. you pay what you get for.

90LSpimpin

I dont see anything wrong

the171

I was under the assumption that the owner performed this work, and then brought it into the shop to have it fixed. In which case, he made some errors, and will probably not make them again next time. If I misunderstood and a shop is responsible for all of this, well then yes absolutely inexcusable. Shameful. My fault for not reading closer.

the171

I disagree. Its all about trial and error. Life is all about trial and error. Thats how you get good at things. And yes I work around professional mechanics on a daily basis. Now don't be rude, this is all for fun friend!

00Red_SiR

It would seem you're having trouble with reading comprehension? Life is all about trial and error, yes. It CAN be how you get good at things but it certainly isn't the only way and shouldn't be the main way. You're talking about regular everyday people that do things as a hobby. I was specifically addressing what you had to say about professional engine builders....two seperate things. You already admitted that you didn't fully read and understand the thread which is why I appeared to be rude to you.

EHondaJDM

making mistakes in life and learning from them has nothing to do with dropping your engine off to someone who SHOULD know what they're doing and them fudgein' it up.

this thread is a good idea, should do more like it.

fa5mugenfd1

Lol wow

UncleD

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You can't fix stupid, and you can't teach common sense. I am not an engine builder, but I would have enough common sense to look at the piston, see it has two different sides and valve relief pockets, and install accordingly. Not that technical.

EHondaJDM

And alls it is is common sense.

93egSLEEPER

Not to mention MOST pistons include an arrow OR "IN" stamp on them indicating intake side vs. exhaust side, and the arrows should all point in the same direction.

EE2bitsk

damn thats ghetto.

DDTECH

Bears, i'm glad you did this.
I'd share pictures of cars i've tuned, or built or even had to rewire from other peoples crappy work.

This goes to show that people who work in this industry and hobby deal with alot and have alot to go over and check for..

This is just "1" pic of a motor we're rebuilding.. its a Nitrous D series setup, but this was the first thing saw, after the head was removed.


People who think its all fun and games in this hobby are stupid.. its alot of work..

Obviously, snowflakes aren't normal in a motor.

I'll post some pics of the wiring i'm redoing tomorrow, i'm doing some tiding up, and some kelvar covering and what not.. but the wiring is all held together by duct tape, and scotch tape...its sad how much people ghetto rig stuff.

DDTECH

also in the first picture, i believe the block guard should be slightly down a bit more.. lol

DDTECH

My vtec goes.. BAWAHHHH knock knock ...bouwnnnnn "motor kills"

PyroProblem

In the first pic. I can't tell whether the piston is installed backwards or not, but regardless, the INTAKE valve reliefs should be BIGGER than the exhaust. So the exhaust valves hitting the pistons I dont think is the result of backwards pistons, but rather improper exhaust cam timing...
I bet the "engine builder" had the exhaust cam off a tooth...
How do the bearings look? Or should I even ask...

PyroProblem

The second pic, I think the question should be changed to, "What is right with this picture?".

And the 3rd pic where the brake line is rubbing on suspension components. Eh, yeah ummm...I dont know what to say about that. Brake line tucks gone wild?

Furyof4

Bears thank you for posting this. I see this **** all too often. Unprotected power wires, twisted and taped wires, poorly routed wire/lines. One of the worst ones I've seen were someone using 2 complete engine harnesses to do an h22 swap, by that I mean they used an ENTIRE civic harness spliced together with ENTIRE prelude harness. All done with duct tape and wire twisting. No soldering or crimping at all. The harness was a 3" dia bundle of duct tape and of course, it wouldn't start and had lots of cel's.

Thats what I hate about the brake and wire tuck fad. For every 1 nice setup posted online there are probably 10+ other hack tuckjobs out there.

SLIM NOTHING

x2

egb18c5

take a real good look, its obvious in the pics that the pistons are backwards.

PyroProblem

Ahhh, now I see it. I couldnt see the valve reliefs last night (long drive back from Florida), but yeah those pistons are backward alright, but I still think the piston to valve contact was more of a timing issue, than piston orientation. Dont ya think?

One of my favorite hackjobs Ive seen was an amplifier screwed into the trunk of a 911 using 2" sheetmetal screws. Too bad the gas tank is also in the trunk. The screws went right into the gas tank puncturing it. That was about a $5500 mistake...

egb18c5

lmao, i seen that plenty of times myself lol