ramswood2000

IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING AN ALL MOTOR GSR IN AN EG HATCH LOOKING AT 12:5:1 COMPRESSION DUE TO NON E85 IN AUGUSTA GA. MY BUILDER TOLD ME THAT I SHOULD GO WITH THE SKUNK2 PRO3 CAMS BUT IVE ALSO BEEN HEARING ABOUT THESE VTEC KILLER CAMS. HAS ANYBODY USED THESE CAMS BEFORE I WANTTO SEE WHAT THERE MADE OF.

grjp1988

pro2's.

q16racer

do you have magical powers?

raverx3m

iTrader: (1)

vtec killer cams are for race only they dont have the small (non vtec lobes)
i mean wait they dont have the vtec lobe because the regular ones are high lift.
so your vtec is always mad kickin

heres a HT thread about kiler cams
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-type-r-8/toda-vtec-killer-cams-56843/
Part No. Angle (valve lift) Price
14111-B16-006 285 (12.5) IN ¥56,000
14111-B16-011 295 (12.5) IN ¥56,000
14111-B16-016 305 (12.5) IN ¥56,000
14121-B16-006 285 (12.0) EX ¥56,000
14121-B16-011 295 (12.0) EX ¥56,000
14121-B16-016 305 (12.0) EX ¥56,000






heres the skunk2 pro 3:


Exhaust Duration/Lift
284* / 12.4

Intake Duration/Lift
277* / 13.0

raverx3m

iTrader: (1)

omg they killed VTEC!!!!!!!

ramswood2000

so i should just stick with pro 3s mean this is gonna be a track car

95skunkedgsr

what bore and crank are you running ?

DDTECH

...want vtec killer? Put pro3's in and put vtec on at 800rpms. There you got vteckillers.

DSRxCandyh2bEG

iTrader: (4)

OOoooor, you can lock the rockers and have vtec on all the time that way... Probably better than setting vtec to 800 rpms... just sayin...

DDTECH

I dunno its all the same **** really

if you wanna have vtec killers just put vtec on at 1200 or some **** and have your car idle at 1200.. lmao

raverx3m

iTrader: (1)

grind the cams for your specific application, thee was a thread about it not too long ago.
crane and someone else cna make you custon cams for your specific purpose

92TypeR

Chilled & quenched forged iron.

I had two different sets of custom grinds made for my 2.0L by Web. Pro-3's made more power everywhere.

While custom grinds can be better than an off the shelf solution, it doesn't always work that way.

Want the best cam for your setup? Buy every cam you think is good, and test them in your own motor. Resale on barely used cams is good, so you aren't out hundreds of dollars. And in the end, knowing exactly which cam works best on your setup is worth the extra time and money spent testing.

I've been though six different cams on my 2.0L, I'm sticking with Pro-3's now.

EHondaJDM

vtec killers are bound to within a short time from what i heard

newtron63h

does someone make rockers specifically FOR vtec killers which cant be unlocked and are lighter? i thought that was the main idea behind them. use them in a race engine where bottom end torque doesnt matter, use lighter locked rockers to reduce VT weight.....AND reduce the moving parts in the engine. so what you get is a lil better reliability because of less moving parts, and lighter VT which makes higher rpms safer.

newtron63h

true, custom cams arent always going to be better. i think it depends alot on how much information you can provide the place about your specific build and how much experience they have with that engine. as you know there are alot of things about cams that are universal no matter what engine, but then there are alot of things that have to be tailored specifically to THAT engine........things like port size, length, angle, combustion chamber design, piston dome/dish, rod/stroke ratio, header specs, etc......all have to be taken into account when grinding a cam.

id also think that a place with a good rep would be willing to work with you on it to get you what you want/need. could be wrong though.

newtron63h

what kinda track? strip? road course? autox?

for drag id say either will do, u dont need low end torque so if u have it fine, if u dont fine.

for road racing id say you can PROBABLY do without low end torque.........this completely depends on what kinda track. a place like watkins glen which is a VERY fast track, with not much in the low speed corner dept it would be fine. alot of then motorsports parks around the country have alot of low speed corners where you might not have the right gear to keep you in high rpms will benefit from vtec.

for autox low end torque is KEY, which is why most FI cars that are built specifically for autoX use superchargers as opposed to turbos. so in that case you will DEFINITELY need the low end benefits from vtec.

92TypeR

TODA used their own rockers for their F3 B-series based engines.

Using just the TODA spacers and rocker eliminator pieces reduces rocker motion weight by ~1/3.

If you want a more efficient rocker system for the B-series, Ferrea is the only mfg of a roller-rocker assembly. It works the opposite way, only utilizing the VTEC lobe of a B-series DOHC VTEC cam.



As with many things in life, the results are only as good as the inputs.

newtron63h

ok, yeah thats what i was thinking, vtec killers were designed with extreme rpm in mind by reducing vt weight and getting rid of non essential moving parts.

92TypeR

Yes indeed, that was their intended purpose.

There are many new cams available that make more power than TODA VTEC Killers.

EHondaJDM

Anybody try bisi cams?

raverx3m

iTrader: (1)

would it benefit any to regrind skunk2 cams to steel instead of chilled iron?

2point6

Web Cams extended rockers with some of their WICKED cams.

raverx3m

iTrader: (1)

so why cant you just build an LS instead, it aldready doesnt have the vtec rocker if you gonnause it for all race purpose why not LS instead of turning a vtec head into non vtec?

95skunkedgsr

the ls head is not a good setup for big cam the way it is on the inside limits you alot ..

kyden

if you look at how the rockers on an ls are kept in place, you'd see it is not stable at high rpm, at all.