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Old 03-24-2009, 09:43 PM
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I just cant seem to find squat with this new search crap.

Lookin at pickin up 97 jdm itr cams for a good price. can i run em on stock gsr valve springs or should i change to dual valve springs, change any retainers or keepers.

and do you need to pull the cam gears off to do the cams or can u leave them on
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with stock valvesprings don't go over your stock redline. With the ITR springs you can go a little higher
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New Search sucks, true....but this has been discussed quite a bit.

You CAN run the GSR Springs w/ ITR cams, but you won't be able to take full advantage of the cams. DO NOT attempt to go past GSR redline.

If you want to save cash, you can always pick up ITR INTAKE springs. Move your GSR Intakes to the exhaust (same part number) and Voila...ITR springs.

I'm not sure about retainers. Maybe someone else can answer that.
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Type-r cams are great in a gsr. I happen to know this from experience. I ran type-r cams in my stock gsr. Tuned I made 169whp and I forgot tq and this was on a stock gsr motor. The only thing is that to fully take advantage you have upgade valve spring. You don't have to,I didn't the only down side to not upgrading is you won't be able to go past stock gsr redline. You'll still feel a power gain. Another thing is if you do go with type-r cams I recommend you use the 98-00 type-r cam the lobe is slightly bigger and a little more power too. I have a pair I'm selling.....
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just switch the intake springs to the exhaust and order some ITR intake springs like said above and use your stock retainers and valves. that is what i did you can get the itr intake springs for under $100 bucks from del ray acura online.
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Originally Posted by 94VTEC2TONE
and do you need to pull the cam gears off to do the cams or can u leave them on
Are you serious?

How on earth do you expect to replace the stock cams without removing the stock cam gears? Have you even looked at a set of honda cams in person?
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hahahaha thats sig worthy
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Originally Posted by ruffrhyder
Are you serious?

How on earth do you expect to replace the stock cams without removing the stock cam gears? Have you even looked at a set of honda cams in person?
ez, if the itr cams came with gears already...haha j/p, i know what you mean.

to the OP, you havent searched enough. theres like billions of threads bout this setup.

yes, you can run itr cams on stock b16/b18c1 valve train.
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Originally Posted by 94vtec2tone
and do you need to pull the cam gears off to do the cams or can u leave them on
lmao. You can teleport them into place.
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lmao. You can teleport them into place.
I'm actually working on that right now
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I'm actually working on that right now
Werd'up. Cause OP is going to need it very soon.
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ez, if the itr cams came with gears already...haha j/p, i know what you mean.

to the OP, you havent searched enough. theres like billions of threads bout this setup.

yes, you can run itr cams on stock b16/b18c1 valve train.
I wouldn't trust stock B16 springs with ITR cams, you'z brave if you do.
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ya ive looked at them. just never looked at the distributor side smart ***. bring info or stfu is how i see it. if you gotta post to be a jag u can post some other thread
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Originally Posted by 94VTEC2TONE
ya ive looked at them. just never looked at the distributor side smart ***. bring info or stfu is how i see it. if you gotta post to be a jag u can post some other thread
Well common sense would say that anything BOLTED to the stock cams will have to be removed and switched over to the news cams right?
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Originally Posted by 94VTEC2TONE
ya ive looked at them. just never looked at the distributor side smart ***. bring info or stfu is how i see it. if you gotta post to be a jag u can post some other thread
Hey smart guy, since when were the cam gears on the distributor side? I vote OP is a bench racer.
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Originally Posted by ruffrhyder
I wouldn't trust stock B16 springs with ITR cams, you'z brave if you do.
its been done before, plus b16 intake valve springs are dual, but i know what you mean. i'm currently running itr cams with gsr valve train. works beautifully. vtec is the ****! thinking bout k24 in my ek...
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Default Re: type r cams

Originally Posted by hmoobhero
its been done before, plus b16 intake valve springs are dual, but i know what you mean. i'm currently running itr cams with gsr valve train. works beautifully. vtec is the ****! thinking bout k24 in my ek...
i believe only the 2nd generation and up b16 motors have dual springs. can anyone confirm?
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ruffrhyder
Hey smart guy, since when were the cam gears on the distributor side? I vote OP is a bench racer.
didnt say cam gears were that side. was figuring you coould pull them out without gears, hence i did not know. learn to read
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Originally Posted by 94VTEC2TONE
didnt say cam gears were that side. was figuring you coould pull them out without gears, hence i did not know. learn to read
Well perhaps if you could type a coherent sentence people wouldn't need to decipher you intended statements. Lets just say for argument sake you can pull the cams directly out of the head, without removing the cam caps and rails, (again that's what I'm assuming your saying since your sentences don't make any sense) from the cam gear side, how on earth would you remove the cams without the gears getting in the way?

Seriously, buy a manual or subribe to hondahookup and download a manual before you destroy a perfectly running engine.
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I thought OEM USDM GSR and ITR valvesprings were the same...part #'s are the same...

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Originally Posted by variable
I thought OEM USDM GSR and ITR valvesprings were the same...part #'s are the same...
yea, i think just the intake side tho. gsr exhaust valve springs arent dual.
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