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Old 05-27-2013, 06:03 AM
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Just picked up a 1990 Ef hatch to do a budget build...
D16z6

Mill head .110"
Comp cam 59500
Rev valve springs
Ported and epoxied short turns
P29 pistons 75.5mm -17.43:1-cr
Stock rods w/arp bolts
Moroso oil pan
Cable SI tranny
E85
Obd 1 conversion

My goal is to make over 180whp
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That's I pic of the port before the epoxy and the final shaping...
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Nice build. It will be interesting to see how it will turn out. Subscribed.
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considering U have all the clearances I do not see how U get 17.43:1
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Originally Posted by koczeka
considering U have all the clearances I do not see how U get 17.43:1
He took a ton if material off the head. Good luck timing that setup.
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The chamber is only 23cc after milling .110"
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180whp single cam BUDGET build?

what is your budget lol
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I'm a machinist so all the labor porting,boring,milling is free and with that high of a compression I don't think it ill be that hard to hit that 180whp mark.
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this looks like it will be a good build. very interested to see the final outcome
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Default Re: TopoBuilt 17.0:1 All Motor D16

Originally Posted by 98vtec
He took a ton if material off the head. Good luck timing that setup.
I saw that milling, still
Clearances?!

P29 is this one?! Very little dome.


MAYBE would yield that high with sg. like this:
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I was thinking the same thing. Doesn't mean it can't be done though.
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Looks like a good build, not sure if E85 will have enough octane to run the timing that the engine wants but would be a start. Keep us posted!
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I had a similar set up but with a mild d16A6 piston and 23cc chamber and it ran great but this time around i desided to run a little more compression...
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Originally Posted by koczeka
I saw that milling, still
Clearances?! what CC chamber did you run with that set up and what cc piston is that?

MAYBE would yield that high with sg. like this:
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good luck man i would love to see how that turns out.
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What epoxy are you using on the head?
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you are not planning on using pump e85 are you?

I ask because you have to be careful with what you are actually receiving at the pump.

I'm curious to how the cam degreeing will work out.
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Default Re: TopoBuilt 17.0:1 All Motor D16

Maybe you should be playing with a piston more like this.



This is what I have been using in one of my d15's. Stock rods & rod bolts. Milled head , .005 off the deck. This is what 17:1 actually looks like.

It will not run at all on 92octane. It will get itself out of the garage with 100octane. But it loves 114.

I have done the p29 setup and found that the aftermarket (ebay) p29's have very weak ring lands.
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lol. whats the weight on that thing?
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Hahaha Blake. I cant remember. I did weigh them when I got them back in 09. This was the first set that ARIAS actually made specific for the d15. A lot has changed in the last 4 years thats for sure. My next set will be much lighter I am sure.

The engine has been together since 09 and have never had any issues. I like reliability.
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Not 100% accurate but I'm going to pre assemble and CC the motor for exact Compression results
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you forgot the head milling of .110
and how the hell did you get 23 chamber volume
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Default Re: TopoBuilt 17.0:1 All Motor D16

Originally Posted by raverx3m
you forgot the head milling of .110
and how the hell did you get 23 chamber volume
I actually cc'ed the chamber myself so that's why I changed the chamber size but here you go I did it the way you said and now it says like 18:1
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Today ill be at the shop so ill post some more pics
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