DDTECH

You dont need to spend 400 on cam gears...Find some on ebay..or in the marketplace..

I run ebay cam gears , i just took out the crappy screws and replaced them with GE cam gear bolts and good to good.

You need to adjust those cams, cause you'll make some more power as it sets if you adjust the gears..
Then look into Kteller's 3''s exhaust

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Those cams aren't made for that 3" exhaust. I don't think he's going to see much more from what they were designed for. They aren't skun2s or Rockets, they have a specific purpose. I'd use the Real Toda Gears with their timing marks for their settings. I would avoid e-bay.

importfan2

hey dan where are the markings for the cams.. im running toda C's and have gears that i bought seperate and they have marking but i dont think they are specific to toda cams..

Otherwise you think u would see A,B,C markings

AllMotorDan

yeah, ive spent too much time and money on the parts i have to just cheap out and do ebay stuff now. i'd either get toda cam gears or the spoons which are the same exact cam gear. as far as markings, there the little lines, each line i believe is 1 degree. i wouldn't go playing around with them yourself i'd have them adjusted by your tuner on the dyno.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

the lines are .5 degree markings. Not one degree

00Red_SiR

That's not what he meant. He was just saying that if the manufacturer says to start out with +1 IN and -2 EX, for their cams on the same make of cam gears, you can be sure they'd be "more correct" than if you used someone else's cam gears.

vicsrex

Hate to bump old thread but did anyone ever degree the specs b? Just curious if they are close to mine. First time degreeing cams and want to double check, I got -2 degrees on intake and +2 on exhuast.

egboss

Those cams r 2 beefy for that set up u should get some skunk 2 pro 1s

mugen mj5

nice

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Which would do the same, with a slight bit more of top end. The Pro1s are similar to TODA C2s.

AllMotorDan

i retuned, same setup as before but with fresh rebuild on bottom end with CTR pistons. Mike at CCT tuned the car for me

201/128

FlewByU352

Proof those ****ers love compression!

Casey

iTrader: (5)

i LOVED my jdm gsr with toda bs. very similar setup as you, made 181/131. was way faster than it shouldve been in my 92 cx lol. i think these cams are overlooked now due to many other choices but theyre still a great midrange cam. i made 125-130 ftlbs from 2500 to redline

EF ridin 4 Life

Blam...ctr pistons strike again making power like they allways will and have been since the late 90s...but I thought the piston would hit..? Wat about the poor flame travel..? Blam none of these problems exist cause it is a honda tech MYTH.

Nice numbers op. Did you happen to play with cam gears at all this time..?

Ps. Don't wanna make these a ctr bashin war but I just allways thought it was weird cause I never had any problems with them ( with gsr head too) or heard of any problems until I came on this site.

koczeka

not even the same class

00Red_SiR

The pro 2's would be in the same class as the C2's, the pro 1's would be comparable to the Toda B's, Rocket M22xx cams.

koczeka

The TODA Cs, Pro2 and the m22xx are very different profile/approach from each other.
m22 is larger than the Cs and P2s whether U believe it or not.
I know your comparison between the P2 and m22... we measured all 3 cams...

00Red_SiR

For sure. I wasn't trying to discuss measurements so much as I was talking about "classes" meaning what cams would be more directly comparable to another. For example, Toda A, Type R/CTR, Buddy Club 3 and skunk 2 tuner stage 1's would all be in a comparable "classification" together but they would all have differences in measurements and they would all be considerations to run on a B16a or mild 1.8L

koczeka

yeah, OK, I know
I just wanted to share some hands on info.

AllMotorDan

no cam adjustments, there still set to 0,0 on the cam gears. i was worried about adjusting them and running into piston to valve clearance issues. the car runs awesome. i still get worried about the whole "timing belt" myth but whatever if it blows up it blows up.

00Red_SiR

I always look forward to your posts with interest koczeka

00Red_SiR

V2V should always be more of a concern when making adjustments blindly. When valves touch, timing belts tend to shred quite easily...

AllMotorDan

and how would you know this without claying?

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Thank you. Mistyped the Pro1/Toda B, Pro2/C2.

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

Including ramp angle? The true measurement of different behaviour between camshafts?