Allmotor-R

I made 217-220whp on Stock itr bottom end /built head with Skunk2 stg 2 cams ported head/ ported manifold /bigger throttle body/fuel rail and 440 or 385 injectors /custom made header with big tubes 4-2-1 and 2 3/4 inches exhaust with high flow ..NO power steering and no ac belt with the belts on i made 212whp with out them right at 220whp i dont remember tq numbers little bit above 140. HOndata S300 .I dont know if i am leaving anything out its been a while since i done that build.But thats about it ..AND Good TUNER Is a key!!!

kam 94' DC2

i know all motorR
i know it can be done lol!
im gonna go 210hp on motor and like 325hp+ on the giggle juice

kam 94' DC2

and hey allmotroR how do you like your b sereis?!

i love when poeple tell me whats best and what to do! lol

personally ill never give up b sereis! im gonna make mine look as oem as possible even a b18c1 valve cover and a full cam gear cover lol!
its gonna be a beast
and as far as i know with my 12k it would crush any k swap WITH THE SAME AMOUNT SPENT! lol

BeniRacing

With 12-13K you could easily build a K-series. But anyways....continue to be slow and dream. fgt

kam 94' DC2

search any shop in california!
a k swap cost you 11.5k minimum
and it deltes the ps!

i WANT PS and AC
and im paying a exact total off $11,348.98
with tuning and having them do all the work
now tell me i could get a entire k swap and make it faster than what imdoingf or that price?

no i cant!
and broskie some of us perfer style and power
for me its sleeper's and power

so me getting my b18cR to look like a b18c1 and fully tuned on nitrous
im sure it would crush whatever you got

and if you wanan come back with lame *** excuses or builds
come on over to my house:
we got a 9.61 @ 158.69mph evo sitting here! dialy driven build by curtbrown racing ask for juan he knows us personaly
got videos on youtube got time slips its posted all over evolution.net
thats my older brothers car!

ima DC2 kid lol!
so ill keep my b series sleepers
have fun and put up or shut up! im sure once this cars built it will eat whatever you got;P

DDTECH

s2s2's vtec lobes are just as big as the pro1's from my understanding.. alway, with bigger low / mid range .. pro1's overall are a better cam for everyday use, however if this is strictly a drag racing car, then ya s2s2's will work well, i ran these on my stock block itr, which made 207whp all motor, and i had a 75 shot on top of it.
I had these in my b20vtec but traded for pro2's..s2s2's are a good cam but if you got a big motor with high compression you will be undercammed they will be great for a 1.8 liter setup.

negusjuda

i still say 12k for a all motor b series with spray is way to much how much is a nitrous kit at the most 800 and eagle rods are good up to id say 450 whp although i have seen a lot more on eagle rods but hey its your cash i know for that build you named i would pay half of what you said its gonna cost and i though it was even cheaper to build hondas in cali im glad im on the east coast then where b series builds are cheap

kam 94' DC2

my wiring hardness is 1k
getting a fully built bottom end
fully built top end
and a full nitrous kit thats gonna run in basicly 2 stages
a dirtect port to the manfold
and a wet shot drilled into the intake pipe

and a full tune
now you get online and find me every part and then labor rates and tuning
gonna come out the same
its actually a little more expensive if buy most of the parts bc im getting a package deal from bubba

so ya in my eyes it far more superior than a k swap lol! and i actually might be getting a evo soon so that might put off this build!

negusjuda

what the hell kinda harness you getting for a 1k lol its that harness better wire itself for that kinda money.i have

je pistons and eagle rods=700
acl bearings=90
aebs intake mani=200
skunk2 cams and gears i got a deal new=500
portflow valvetrain=400
top end rebuild kit form inline4.com=250
bottomend rebuild kit inline4.com=150
timing belt warterpump=220
walbro 255 fuelpump=150
rmf replica header=300
edlebrock tb=250
rywire harness kit =200 i dont know what kinda wiring harness you think you need
b20vtec kit with head studs=350

im not sure what other lil misc stuff i got but labor would of cost me a 1000 now i dont know what parts you was gonna get that was much more speacial then mine but im no where near 12k bubba was raping you with that deal if you ask me. with al lthat together its under 5k where you spending the other 7k on your build i have no clue

negusjuda

nitrous dont cost 7k bucks

BeniRacing

How about you build it yourself? You might learn something along the way.

Just saying...And please dont bring up the.....

" Well when its done....it it it .....will beat anything you got"

How lame. Give me a shout when you want to run that slow car at IFO with me.

kam 94' DC2

nos dont cost 7k lol i never claimed it!
im getting a progressive control,remote bottle opener,my own bottle and **** and a spare 20lb bottle!
add it up its actually like 1.200$ maybe a lillte more
then tunning and hondata
im getting eagle rods and wiseco pistons
also sleeving the block arp main/head studs and built head
most of it will be done on my own such as sending the block for sleeving and head for porting! but the complete assembly is gonna get done by professionals!

and slow beni? i bet this car when its done crushes the honda ur driving! and if you dont got one then why you on here lol....

the car runs 13.6 at fontana speed way california!
with a hytech replica,2.5" 5zigen pipe w/ test pipe and a oem ITR muffler and a 3" ITR CAI and some bold as falken ziens at 20 psi!
also got 2 12's in the trunk and full interior
thats pretty damn good for a 26xxlb gsr 2814lb with me in it last time we weight it...


and for wheoever keeps saying tuner 2's make more power plz call skunk2 and get edumacated lol!
the pro 1's we based of the tuner 2's for people who want a little more top end and better mid range
the primary lobes are way bigger and vtec lobes are bigger and they have more lift
pro 1's are bigger just harder to tune and they have a lopey idle if they arent dialed!


oh and did u ever think once my ITR parts are out of the car ill have em to sell
that could net probably 1000$+


but like i said if you reread im thinking abuot picking up a evo ix for 24999. and if i dobuy it ill end up getting a full turbo! (gt35r) with a intercooler sprayer!
and then tuning it so just gotta decide which i should do!
if i go evo i got a bad *** street car to run around in and then have my gsr for a work and back or whatever car....just gotta decide!

negusjuda

well most of us say tuner 2 make more power because we have seen dyno comparisons where they made more power it depends on setup s othere is no reason to call skunk 2 if we seeing it with our own eyes and the vtec lobes on the pro1 are not bigger the nthe tuner 2 pro 1 make more mid range not more peak power then tuner 2. the tuner 2 have a more agressive vtec crossover and vtec lobe in which in a lot of situations make more peak power then pro1's but pro1's have a broader power band. in drag racing id rather have the peak power

negusjuda

with the tuner2's you have better streetability and more peak power and pro1's you get more mid range but you sacrifice on the streetability a lil the pro ones seem to be more for a road race aplication hence how skunk 2 does more road racing then drag nowadays

B20vEf9

This thread is hilarious.

$12,000 for a K swap..? Are you serious..?

You can do a K swap yourself for like $6000-$7000, and if you are paying a shop to have it done it shouldn't cost anymore than $1000 for a shop to put a K series in your car. That's only $8000. With the other $4000 you could build a head, and k24 block.

You can also keep AC and PS, so quit telling people to do there research, and go do yours.

Power Steering Kit
http://www.hybrid-racing.com/?cat=27

AC Kit
http://www.hybrid-racing.com/?cat=4&p=711

vivid 02

If you got $12k cash I suggest you buy my car. My car and motor has proven itself at many events. A clean titled Integra Type R that is knocking on door to them 11's ALL MOTOR!!!! Try to find that in Southern California!!!!

negusjuda

lol nevermind that he is saying 12k to build a b-series

NirVTEC

So you guys deal with these ridiculous noobs in the AM section too?

LOL @ people spending $8k+ for a K series installed......

negusjuda

it must be a west coast thing

B20vEf9

It's ridiculous.

I even used high numbers, and still came out $4000 less than what he said he was quoted. He's getting charged $5000+ in labor if he were to go K.

negusjuda

yea he said its gonna cost him 12k to build that b series i tried to calculate it all and i just couldnt get to 12k and the 12k he is quoted is supposed to be a deal

B20vEf9

The B series I really can't comment on. If he does a built sleeved block, and built ported head depending where he goes could cost a pretty penny.

95skunkedgsr

give me 12k ill build it for you

FrankieC

i dont much about your built, i made 229hp at the wheels with blox b serries cam and 82mm c.p. piston 11:1 piston on a poor man and some head work. blox cam is a copy of the skunk2 cam

negusjuda

12k his build isnt any diffrent then any other b20vtec n/a build besides the fact he is adding nitrous i know with my b20vtec build im nooooooooooo where near 12k and i went forged pistons and rods