crazes

true. we all thought that because i was using 93 pump that it was the reason for the low power. But for sure now that we will know what the real story is with the head and will see what she really does. Man I cant wait to see what happens with this new motor. I will say for a possible half as head work I still made some decent power

Cynical 1

hmmm... it's a shame...

i know he was also posting/advertising like crazy on a well known VW board. i wonder if they have had any similar experiences with the VW heads he was doing.

95skunkedgsr

like honestly im at the point that where if this head gose bad or is bad , imma gonna have to part ways .. sell everything and go turbo, or just buy the 06 gto ive been wanting , i just cant shell out another 1300 bucks for buying a head and porting it ,

SR20S13

Im glad i went with rlz from the start

95skunkedgsr

like a year and a half ago when i got my head ported everyone recomended him to me, and had nothing but good things to say to me about him... then a thread like this pops up

Madmood

I tried to tell a few of you in this thread that Steve was a "Hack" for a few years. But my posts got deleted or ignored. Sucks to see good people get screwed over.

95skunkedgsr

when i was first looking for a porter i couldnt dig up anything bad about him ... everyone had nuttin but good things to say ... i can tell you this tho ,when looking at my head he didnt grind the valve guides at all and told me they didnt need to be replaced when he inspected them for me. So hopefully there wont be a issue there. He installed my supertech springs and flat face valves for me also , hope i dont have a issue with there valves as ive been reading about also. ... the work looked top notch to the untrained eye,

NAH2B

x2 i have told people about steve in the past as well and i was ignored or thought to have been hating. in one particular thread i got bashed by steves customers, some of whom are in this thread. but i cant blame them for sticking up for a guy they thought was doing them right, afterall he was very popular on here. i never care when people disagree w/ me anyway, as long as it doesnt effect me physicaly in any way. most of you know, i always say whats on my mind, speak the truth, and truly dont give a fck what people think of me

2fastGSR

Wait.... you mean that EVERYTHING you read on HT is not necessarily true??????

apwhat

didn't see this coming.. forum 'engine builders' never live to the hype.. 30 years with a shop open does...

just saying for future builders.. don't go by a signature or thread count/popularity...

lol, then again i've dropped off an engine and had to break into the same shop to get it back... lol

people suck ***.

sueing ftw.

00Red_SiR

Interesting to hear. I got a head done from Steve about 3 years ago and it's performed flawlessly and I am still completely happy with the entire transaction and his customer service. In fact, he helped me out of another unfortunate situation I had with another "reputable" head porter/engine builder that use to be on here, at the time.

Rocket was a big supporter of Steve, and I was under the impression that RLZ (Brad) and Steve had some sort of a mentoring type of friendship between the two...

Natural Aspirations

Ditto....., then again RLZ ported the first head I had issues with.

0xenocron

Nope, but everything on Facebook is :p)

Always sad to read threads like this after the fact...

Fink29

It's ALWAYS after the fact !!!

Jimmy

iTrader: (5)

I appreciate the professionalism (<-- that is a word ) in this thread... Great to see everybody on the same page, helping each other out.. Hopefully nobody got screwed around terribly bad.

dirtyharryhatch

Wow. Never personally dealt with him but i remember suggesting him to one of my friends because it seemed as if NO ONE had anything bad to say about him. Thanks for informing everyone on here NAH2B.

NAH2B

Steve and Brad both did things MUCH differently. Steve knows Brad is the best so he turned to Brad for advice here and there. Brad is easygoing and was happy to give advice but he never shared any valuable secrets w/ steve. he gave steve enough knowledge to get by, but never gave him his best of anything.

most of Steves heads are obviously "working" and "functioning", its not like he had a huge issue of destroying heads or anything. mainly his portwork is simply sub par and not what he thought it was or promised it to be. you can be happy w/ Steve and your head but theres power left on the table for sure.

q16racer

his head did ok on my first build. I had a before and after. Picked up 10whp and power carried much farther...then i spun a rod bearing

88Hatchy

Ditto. FML.

ThA5oLuTiOn

Wow, I sent out a b16 head for a customer like 3 years ago which his motor never made good power for what his set up was, it was a all motor setup. Now I wonder why.

So randy what you been doing these days since you retired? You was great at what you was doing for the sport and deff had a unique way of doing an all motor setup. Hope one day you can get behind that wheel again ;-)

cibao2ner

i remenber when nah2b and steve went to war...RLZ heads at cost was the result...good times....i had 2 done...those who didnt take advantage really lucked out..

but it looks like this is happening more n more...1st neukin, peakboost,,,now steve...i wonder whos the next big scammer...

GhostAccord

It's not really an issue of who's to be the next scammer. It's more like who's popular enough with the masses or the next flavour of the month. All they have to do is talk the talk and just pretend to walk the walk. Then the masses are all theirs! As long as the price is right! You got to pay to play! That's why shops that have been around awhile and know their shyte cost money!

Professor15

not sticking up for anyone, but it seems like what steve was offering was good customer service and good price for a decent head. Its obvious that he didnt have the knowledge or skills that brad has, but then again, around that time there was a lot of " Wheres my RLZ head" threads popping up. Either way, its sad to hear...

Enoc

very true.... I remember that steve started offering the streep/strip package for 500, when most porters were asking 850+ for it...

it's even more sad, that when you asked for " who to send my head for portwork " , some of the guys in this thread would jump and say " cccylinderheads!!!....now he butt****ed them...

I'm not defending steve in any way...but what would you expecting, a race head port job for half the price with steve?

i remember threads about gaining 8 to 10hp with steve head...and some more....it's not like people did not make more hp and picked up tq...they did...not a the level of a professional head porter, but more at the level of a hobbyist/enthusiast...

what I can't pass in my head...how can you send pay a guy for a job and then come up with this **** that was subpar...somebody must have vouched for him...racers just don't send cylinders head to a guy without some kind a vouch from others racers or close people from your side...
there were a lot of guys here going CCcylinders FTW!!! so they were recomending steve without having any type of work done by him for them....that then is really sad...

with so many proved CNC programs over the last 3 years...why would you go to a hobbyist ...when youre making a big investment in a engine...why cheap it out....

there are some good companies that you don't hear drama overs the years...
portflow
headgames
cncport
pure tuning
HDR
and some others...just stick to what works...

NAH2B

EXACTLY this is so true

and you dont see the best, most knowledgable guys in the cylinder head industry spending time, making posts and showing pics on h-t and other forums day in and day out.