Next Generation Rocker Arms - CNC Modular Units for BVTEC (Prototype Spy Shots)
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Next Generation Rocker Arms - CNC Modular Units for BVTEC (Prototype Spy Shots)
<FONT SIZE="4">BVTEC ROCKER ARMS</FONT>
A CNC company I know is working on these. Pricing will be "attractive."
Version 1: Traditional Style
Version 2: Roller Vtec
Version 3: Lightwieght Race - Locked Roller
A CNC company I know is working on these. Pricing will be "attractive."
Version 1: Traditional Style
Version 2: Roller Vtec
Version 3: Lightwieght Race - Locked Roller
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Re: Next Generation Rocker Arms - CNC Modular Units for BVTEC (Master of the Universe)
Mmmmm!!!! i like what i see. are these gonna be pretty much oem spec stuff,material,harness,etc... can you use the roller rockers on regular cams[skunk,rm,toda]?
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Re: Next Generation Rocker Arms - CNC Modular Units for BVTEC (4g hatch)
1. Rocker Pads will be hard milled material that will be compatible for sliding contact with camshafts.
2. Roller rocker is to be used with roller profile.
2. Roller rocker is to be used with roller profile.
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Will I have to run an extra oil line to the head? Or can I just use high quality oil?
Good post about new innovations, as opposed to...
1. WHATS CAMZ SHUD I GO WIT?
2. SHUD I USE DA LOCK TIGHT
3. I HEARD DAT...
for new stuff.
Good post about new innovations, as opposed to...
1. WHATS CAMZ SHUD I GO WIT?
2. SHUD I USE DA LOCK TIGHT
3. I HEARD DAT...
for new stuff.
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Re: (Combustion Contraption)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Combustion Contraption »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Will I have to run an extra oil line to the head? Or can I just use high quality oil?
Good post about new innovations, as opposed to...
1. WHATS CAMZ SHUD I GO WIT?
2. SHUD I USE DA LOCK TIGHT
3. I HEARD DAT...
4. Crack in block fixable or not
for new stuff. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Forgot another legendary one, but anyway, expected price?
Good post about new innovations, as opposed to...
1. WHATS CAMZ SHUD I GO WIT?
2. SHUD I USE DA LOCK TIGHT
3. I HEARD DAT...
4. Crack in block fixable or not
for new stuff. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Forgot another legendary one, but anyway, expected price?
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Re: (all-mtr-teg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Forgot another legendary one, but anyway, expected price?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey that crack in the block thread got 60+ responses
Didnt Crane or someone make VTEC roller rockers???
Forgot another legendary one, but anyway, expected price?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey that crack in the block thread got 60+ responses
Didnt Crane or someone make VTEC roller rockers???
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Re: (all-mtr-teg)
1. Yes, lighter. CNC aluminum bodies with hard milled pads and/or rollers.
2. Loud VTEC pop with roller profile, depends. Specify weak *** stock like primaries and VTAK will be vicious.
3. WUT CAMZ TO RUN? U KNO DA WON DAT HITZ HELLA-TITE MAD-VTAK YO. DAYUM!!!!
4. "HOW DU I FIX DA CRACK IN MY BACK?" YA DON'T, YA HURD.
lol.
2. Loud VTEC pop with roller profile, depends. Specify weak *** stock like primaries and VTAK will be vicious.
3. WUT CAMZ TO RUN? U KNO DA WON DAT HITZ HELLA-TITE MAD-VTAK YO. DAYUM!!!!
4. "HOW DU I FIX DA CRACK IN MY BACK?" YA DON'T, YA HURD.
lol.
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Re: (Master of the Universe)
i vote for some h22 love.
These will use the stock rocker ratio correct ?
Also the locked rocker would be similar to "vtec killer cams", like the toda and crane units, correct ?
Who makes roller cams for hondas besides those select few and most of those from what I remember dont have primarys so they would need to be used on the locked rocker unit.
What kind of gains are you predicting with the roller rocker ?
These will use the stock rocker ratio correct ?
Also the locked rocker would be similar to "vtec killer cams", like the toda and crane units, correct ?
Who makes roller cams for hondas besides those select few and most of those from what I remember dont have primarys so they would need to be used on the locked rocker unit.
What kind of gains are you predicting with the roller rocker ?
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sign me up for a limited set and some h22X cams. cash in account.... also are you going to get some new profiles ground for the roller sets?
what are those made in? solidworks?
what are those made in? solidworks?
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Re: Next Generation Rocker Arms - CNC Modular Units for BVTEC (Master of the Universe)
You need a 4th version. VTEC killers with individual rollers. Your version 3 still has the (2) rockers plus (1) roller, so make (2) roller rockers and (1) spacer. Total mass should be near the same plus each roller will have less load on it. therefore extended life will be had by all.
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Re: Next Generation Rocker Arms - CNC Modular Units for BVTEC (SMSP)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMSP »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">extended life will be had by all. </TD></TR></TABLE>
what the point of rollers without some steep ramps
what the point of rollers without some steep ramps
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So we need new cams for the version 2 roller vtec or can we use our regular camshafts like toda and skunk2 with them?
Just want to be sure since i haven't seen any of those camshafts yet with rockers and a roller in the middle yet
Just want to be sure since i haven't seen any of those camshafts yet with rockers and a roller in the middle yet
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Re: (Master of the Universe)
mmmm look out endyn
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Master of the Universe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe some limited runs for H22A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Master of the Universe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe some limited runs for H22A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (prettylew)
1. It's hard to fit rollers on the outboard rockers. The BVTEC head is not designed with rockers in mind. The K20 is, and that's why the K20 rocker ratio winds up to be 1.75. It's all in fitting the package together.
2. Yes, hybrid traditional/roller vtec cam would need to be ground for Version 2 Rocker.
3. The CAD program is Solid Edge (not Solidworks). It's a very very good CAD with full life cycle (design, development, motion assembly, enhancement tracking, etc).
2. Yes, hybrid traditional/roller vtec cam would need to be ground for Version 2 Rocker.
3. The CAD program is Solid Edge (not Solidworks). It's a very very good CAD with full life cycle (design, development, motion assembly, enhancement tracking, etc).