crxandrew89

starting a build on a lsvtec. can yall help me out on what internals and such to use? im using a GSR block but thats about all i have and know to use, can i get some advice on what pistons, crank, head and everything to use? THANKS!!

LightWeightChamp

is this another troll post?

do you even know what ls/vtec is? this will probably blow your mind but ls vtec comes from using a non vtec block and a vtec head.. most commonly an ls, b18a/b or a b20 block. (holy **** i know right) a gsr is a vtec block

i'd start here
google.com

then maybe move on to here
https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/how-build-%22reliable%22-lsvtec-b20vtec-1676914/

Eg.ls.turbo

Using a gsr block ( like me ) is usually referred to a gsr stroker.


And a ls/b20 block and crank with matching rods will always b used if ir wanting a ls/b20vtec.

lxrd_vtec

For some reason I find your question "is this another troll post"funny..he asked about an LSV build with a GSR block

Kyle_Scroggs

hey, simmer the **** down. lsvtec in all of its technical glory is ls block with vtec head. but mr. dick in my ***, it's also reffered to 60% of the time as just about any b18 block with vtec head. I think a better term you should use is Frankenstein. don't try to come at me either k? I build my LSV running a GSR block got stupid amounts of compliments on building my LSVTEC that way because good power of ls block. FWM. so chill the hell out bro.

Kyle_Scroggs

Good power over ls block^^^

93egSLEEPER

93ericSi

The stupid is strong in this one.

93egSLEEPER

A block does not produce power, what is inside and surrounding it does.


Your whole post is an abortion. Give up. Online tommy tough **** w/ the GSR or LS block I can't make up my mind which one I have in my car because I'm lying and don't really have one.

Eg.ls.turbo

Op just do ls crank in a gsr block it'll b safe and reliable with the girdle for the high rev vtec head

93ericSi

Actually a b18C block with a vtec head would literally be a b series vtec not lsvtec. A better statement would be any b series block with an ls/b20 crank is a lsvtec setup. But even that will be wrong also because b20's have a name and a apparently people make "gsr stroker" a thing now too.

this just made me laugh. So I figured I would let others see it.

LightWeightChamp

el oh el

what is even going on in this post?

idk what you honda newbs are up to calling vtec engines lsv but apparently **** is changing... I'm just trying to understand the concept.

so if i put an ls oil cap on a b18c that makes it LSV right?

bottom line is, if you dont need to add a line externally from the block to get oil to the head, its not lsv. always been that way always will be.

93ericSi

I'm pretty sure the oil cap concept does apply. That sounds like the main step in making lsv

crxandrew89

I thought that any b18 block with a b16 vtec is a lsvtec. I'm new to this so please don't be a dick. lol.

Anyways I bought a complete b18c1 block and I want to rebuild it and I want all the parts to be factory minus the intake mani and header.

Should I use the gsr pistons and rods or b16 pistons and rods? which one is better?

Will b20 crank fit in a gsr block?

I want to use the better factory parts for this gsr block.

Thanks for the help.

Eg.ls.turbo

B20 will fit it's the same as ls crank.

crxandrew89

Okay which one should I do? gsr crank or b20 crank?

93ericSi

If you use an 89mm (non vtec) stroke crank you will need to use the respective rods (ls/b20)

Use a gsr crank. Use gsr rods.

crxandrew89

Okay like use b20 crank and use b20 rods. If I do that it will be called stroker right?

Eg.ls.turbo

Correct always match the crank with rods.


If u goin with ls/b20 crank make sure u shot peen the rods to make it stronger for higher rev, but I never shotpeened my rods and rev to 8500rpm with no problem, some people recommends it. Also get arp rod bolts and arp studs.

And u might have to get oil squirters plug to plug up cause the counterweights on the ls/b20 crank will hit the oil squirters. Oil squirter plug only $10-$13

crxandrew89

Okay will do that.

Now pistons. B18, b16, or itr pistons? Aftermarket or OEM for rings and bearings?

93egSLEEPER

I'm putting the spoons away. Its ******* damn near 2014 this is all been covered 10000000 times and over 10 years now. Educate yourself.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ain+girdle+gsr

Eg.ls.turbo

What power gains are u lookin to get? Is the car goin to b daily driven or track use?

Also u know when done all of this your gonna need a tune? Lots of $$$$ goes into lsv/b20v to make reliable

Acl bearings or oem bearings, clevite bearings, king bearing are good, ( I like acl and oem bearings best ) either way u go just make sure ur bearing clearance are good.

Rings I used Nippon rings just clean the rings with scotch brite for smooth edges ( as well as the bearings! ) and measure ur clearance or shave down rings if not within specs.

And get new gsr/type r oil pump, water pump, timing belt and tensioner, golden eagle oil plug kit, headgasket, all new bottom end to top end gasket set, chip ecu with hondata s300v2 etc etc...

Not cheap bro.

crxandrew89

Its going be daily driven. I know that after the engine is done it will get a tune.

Alright I'm gonna write this down and lol don't worry I got money. It might be done during summer or later i'm not in a hurry.

I want everything to be good and reliable.

crxandrew89

So here's my list so far. Let me know if i'm missing something.
Pistons: ???
Rods: b20 rods with arp bolts
Crank: b20
Bearings: OEM
Rings: OEM or Nippon not sure yet
arp studs
oil squirters plug or golden eagle oil plug kit. Isnt that the same thing
new gsr water pump and oil pump
timing belt size not sure because i'm doing b16 head and not sure what kind of cams.
tensioner
bottom end gasket set

93egSLEEPER

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ain+girdle+gsr