OhGeeRize

Thats what i was trying to say..lol

EuroR808

maybe on the east coast everyone has a h2b but i promise you everyone on the west coast owns a b series its the most common swap, it's more preference than anything depending on your budget you can go the cheaper route with the h2b or you can make gobs of torque going h2b.....Remember theres no replacement for dispalcement 2.2>2.0 just my .02

hotrodkid85

I think you should do h2b bc your already starting out with more power with n h series motor

aLlm0t0rboY

yeah im goin to go with h2b just need a good website where to order a h22 from... i want to buy a nice running one i dont mind payin a little more.. do anyone oone know where is a good price whre i can get a motor?

trunkluv

this local mild built daily driven b2v might change your H series mind. B-series for life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkJXZ...hannel&list=UL

trunkluv

I had a turbo kit i was goin to sell for parts for an h2b but instead put the turbo on my gsr and made 240whp180tq ona 5psi spring. I went heads up with my buddies bolt on h2b em1 that made 216whp???tq tuned on same dyno and tuner..i walked him but he was keeping up more than expected. I never was able to boost more than that on that motor till my trans blew from a bad clutch

EsotericImage

iTrader: (8)

a built, high comp B20v will see 250 hp all day

an H with bolt-ons will get to that power too

so either direction is my vote

DA is best

iTrader: (1)

I bought my jdm h22a for $600, jdm b16 cable trans $300, innovative mounts $150, qsd h2b kit $750.....all the other stuff you can find cheap and just look for used parts and just leave the motor stock...intake, header and exhaust will get you around 200whp and mid 12s in a hatch

aLlm0t0rboY

I want to do h2b bc not a lot of .ppl where I live don't really have that..but is there a website you guys recommend?

ProjectEvilEj2

Money build.
H2b > B20v

Budget Build
B20v > h2b

goods of the b20v build.
B series parts and motors are alot more easy to find in everywhere, maybe even your next door neighbors back yards. all the parts for the b20v swap can be found at the junk yard and on craigslist. alot of the basic b20v build are in the 13s already that iv seen and experience. The b20v setup total would cost you around lets say probably no more then 1000 depended on where u stand. if u aready have the block, head, axels,ecu, lsvtec kit with dowl pins etc etc etc.. You well have more money left over to get a real good tune

bad of the b20v build
The b20 sleeves are alot thinner then the rest of the bseries but still very strong depended on what u do to it everyday. High Boost? 10Rev? track? circuit? ..... the b20 walls can still handle boost around 25psi and up to 10k rev! but not much as reliable if it was in the 18psi and 9 rev... over all the b20vtec Builds are a BEAST! Best build for a beginner!

Good and bad of the H2b build.
the motors are really strong! but depending on witch h22 long block or the hybrid h23 with h22 head. it plays alot of a different. but overall still strong. H2b is what alot of people call the k20 killer where iv have heard. the h2b is a very strong setup 13's maybe high 12's depended with good tune and witch h22 you have. with alot of reliability.


Bads of the h2b
The kit itself is already about 1000 then youll have to look into getin the rest of the parts the b series tranny, axles, shift linkage, mounts,etc etc witch youll find at your neighbor back yard. Its alot harder to find h22 parts, youll have to go to a junk yard or order parts here and there witch are expensive and the hardest part is waiting for it. you probably wnt have enough money to get a real tune...

Also it matters what car its going into!!!

Thank about it bro!!!!! if u got money **** the h2b go k20 but if its more of the budget then go b20v you wnt be disappointed. im just give you my opinion

aLlm0t0rboY

i was told that i should get this kit by alot of ppl..http://quartersportsdrag.com/H2B.html
n i want to go h2b but i dont know witch would be the best h22 or it wouldnt matter? n my budget is up there but not enough for a k... n i heard that h parts are harder to find... that doesnt matter if there hard to find.. i want something worth my money n get good numbers after i build

aLlm0t0rboY

i just have a jdmb16 i still have to look for the b20 block... i was looking but i didnt find anyone with one n the closes was a block for 500, i can justg save 300more n get a h22... when i get the h22 i want to do some head work n some block work n spray a 75shot on it... i know a friend of mind has a h2b build head stock bottom making 230hp...

aLlm0t0rboY

i found a f20 for 700 is that a good price or what hseries you guys recommend

SergEK

These threads are always funny

The H is a huge B series - the physical dimensions dwarf a B series in every way but mimic it in most respects

For NA there is no replacement for displacement - even given the same R/S ratio we all know the 2.2 running a 1.7 R/S ratio will make more power than a 2.0L ...

The heads on the H have more area and thus more flow potential - the bore options are larger and will make more power over a B series head.

If you thought of an H as a B and called it a B25 or B26 why on earth would anyone choose a B18 or B20 and say its a better option - its simply not

Randy is making amazing power with the NA H setups and he hasnt put hald the development that the B has gotten - remember the deck plate pro B series setups? No one has done a deck plate H motor and gone for REALLY big motor setup yet that I know of...maybe an H28 or H30? Just saying

From a money standpoint the H represents the biggest bang for the buck IMO - they also have larger main bearings, vtec girdles etc...

For anyone wanting to use a B series trans its the optimal NA setup IMO

The K has more technology and makes more area under the curve thanks to the variable cam angles but the H has plenty inside - easily an 11 sec street motor at a much lower cost compared to a K build...plus you keep the awesome B series trans which is a huge WIN in my book.

hondamn1320

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After seeing what the H motor is capable of, I won't consider going B again.

siregcivic

h2b is not pricey... sure if you dont have none of the **** it is, but then any swap would be pricey...

i got an h22 swap for 1k sure its a usdm h22a1 with a m2a4 trans but im not complaining... i still have all my b series stuff, so i could sell that m2a4 trans for a couple hundred bucks and spend a couple more at qsd and i would only be 1500 into h2b lol but im not gonna go that route ima keep my trans and shift cables since i already cut my mounts to fit the h22

siregcivic

and i got a good friend with just a bolton h22 swap eg with h23 trans runs 13.6 just rolling off the line were going h2b in that car because he keeps breaking axles no matter how much he preloads they break because of the shitty axle alignment... definately high 12 car on street tire if not faster ... oh and 13.6 is on falken azenis