E36 Guy

I cant deceide between putting a h22 or b18c (GSR) into my 97 hatch. Im know more about b-series then h, but h seems to have more power and its cheaper. Ive also read only here the H only weighs about 40-60 more then a B. But there are more aftermarket products (cams, manifolds etc.) for the B. any opinons? thanks

oh yea, obliviously im going all motor

mnskateboarder

id say go with the b18c. parts are usually cheaper and easier to find than for a h22. just my $.02

E36 Guy

bumpy

b16vtecsol

b

BKKloppenborg

I say get the H series i think its better engine.

B series are good 2 though....

HFP

i would say go for the H twan.

Hi-compresion all motor is so great

flesh199

b serie

E36 Guy

Thanks everybody for responding, but can you give reasons as to why you would choose the particular motor over the other? personal experiences?etc.

Jason kiDD

*sigh* Juss do a search in the hybrid forum and most questions can be answered there..

dc4rider

Have you considered the K-series?

munk

H22 will be faster. It is more complicated to put in of course, but in the end, it will produce more power than the GSR. If you don't mind some downtime and some extra headaches, go with H22. You'll eventually love it.

I have not yet and most likely will not lose to a GSR hatch, unless they have internals or, of course, forced induction.

spooned out

had a b16 eg and h22 eg ... if you think swaping the h22 in ek is cheaper you should do more search when your all done with the swap youll eventually put in close to a b18c swap i'd say from 4-5g's no labor... with that said i liked the torque on the h22, theres not as much aftermarket support as the b-series plus parts seem to be more expensive, thats why im going b18c in my ek, bro allready has a h22 in his ek so i knoe how it feels

munk

Yes, there is more of a variety of products on the market for b-series motors. Are you looking for something that gives you a huge array of products to try to decide between, or are you comparing to find which will make the most power? Yes, the parts for H-series are a bit more expensive. No, there aren't 7986 different brands of one part to decide between, but the H22 is a stronger motor, hands down. Just because there are more variations of a product for one motor doesn't mean it's a better motor. It means it's much more common.

So, what is the basis of your comparison? Price? Power? Variety of product?

Cheapest swap and parts? B-series.
Stronger motor, most P-points? H-series.
You want tons and tons of variations of each part for the motor? B-series.

DownshiftDb8

go find someone with a h22 swap.. and drive it..

john@etdracing

B-series ALL THE WAY

ExTrix

i say honda big block.[h22]

sleeprhatch

Go B series

KNIVES

my friend and I both have 99 ek. He has a jdm gsr and ran a 14.4 with about 30 passes. My H22 ek ran a best of 14.03 on 10 passes. Im sure I can hit a high 13 with some more passes. This was my first swap and really wasn't that much harder than the b series that we have done since then. There are about 8 b series swaps in my town but only 1 h22. So you will stand out.....

Terrible One

h22, best bang for the buck, just throw on some bolt ons and upgrade the clutch/flywheel. dont need internal upgrades to hit low 13's w/ h22 hatchies. also you guys say it all adds up the same as a gsr after the swap. usually it totals little over $3000 for swap, lsd, mounts, and shipping. a gsr swap w/ lsd, mounts, and shipping will cost more than that. but thats doing the swap yourself of course.

Honda_Tengoku

H22 all the way. The biggest down fall about the H22 is the cable tranny. Dont let anyone tell u different. They suck. Personally I would go with the H22 with an adapter plate and bolt an LSD ITR tranny on it. that would be the best bet. Your car would absolutely scream in this setup. So u would have the awersome ITR gearing, an LSD, as well as notchy positive feeling shifts, and u wont have to cut into the chassis for cables or for the shifter. BTW I have a 98 EK with an H22 in it. I did the swap myself, so if u have any questions IM me.

E36 Guy

i dont see how the h22 is more expensive, the complete change over is like 2000 bucks, and the gsr is like 3000

puregroove

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The adapter plate would have to be custom fabbed. I don't know of anyone who makes theses and sells them off hand. Sometime back in august there was a guy making the adapter plates but he has long since stopped making them.

Do you run an adapter plate with a b-tranny? If yes, where did you get your adapter plate?

Honda_Tengoku

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The adapter plate would have to be custom fabbed. I don't know of anyone who makes theses and sells them off hand. Sometime back in august there was a guy making the adapter plates but he has long since stopped making them.

Do you run an adapter plate with a b-tranny? If yes, where did you get your adapter plate?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no i dont have one yet. working on it. Sorry man.

H22EKHATCH

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Custom Axles. Wiring. upgraded cooling. expensive mount kit.....etc.(search)etc.....It adds up
and If your bringing it to a shop....you're gunna see a jacked up laber charge

jdm y0

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by white eg4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I cant deceide between putting a h22 or b18c (GSR) into my 97 hatch. Im know more about b-series then h, but h seems to have more power and its cheaper. Ive also read only here the H only weighs about 40-60 more then a B. But there are more aftermarket products (cams, manifolds etc.) for the B. any opinons? thanks

oh yea, obliviously im going all motor </TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you crazy?!?!?!?! YOU hAVE AN EG!!!!