DON'T BUY EDELBROCK THROTTLE BODIES!!
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DON'T BUY EDELBROCK THROTTLE BODIES!!
i bought an edelbrock throttle body for my skunk2 manifold. 65mm. flowed real nice to the manifold. just put my motor in last week. started the car, warmed it up, drove around the block to make sure the clutch was good since it's new. i noticed the gas pedal was real stiff, kinda heavy. but i could live with it. cleaned up, friends went home, and i drove off to go home 30 miles away. on the highway i would get off the gas and the throttle would stick. snapped it and it closed. ok. then i decided to take the back roads to break in the clutch. as i shift from 2 to 3, the rpms didn't drop. so i snap the throttle again and the car justs goes. the plate got stuck wide open when i snapped it. back roads, nowhere to pull over, really tight turns, brand new motor, brand new clutch. i couldn't stay on the brakes because they got too hot. i put it in neutral and the motor's slamming off the rev limiter. i just put it together and didn't want to push it. put it in a higher gear afraid to **** up my new clutch thats got like 5 miles on it, but its an itr trans an picked up pretty quick. finally came to an intersection and shut her off. had a friend find me in the middle of nowhere and bring me an ls tb and switched it in the dark. the tb got hot and looks like the plate expanded and got stuck. almost ****** blew my motor and killed me. hate it. returning it immediately. don't but it.
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Re: DON'T BUY EDELBROCK THROTTLE BODIES!! (Evil Nick M)
Look at the piece of the throttle body that the cable mounts to. I bet you that peice is pushed to far inward on the shaft and the inside part of the throttle body is rubbing/catching against the body of the throttle body. Everyone always thinks it is the plate but it is not.
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no faulty installation here. i put the motor together myself and used helms for all torque specs. i didn't mess up anything. for the throttle wheel part, i tried to see if maybe it was tight or too close, no play, can't move it. tried to take the plate out to just sand it down, but the srews don't feel too good coming out so i left it. Evil Nick M, why should i change my avatar?
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Seems funny, I've been running the same throttle body for over 5 months now.
Never had a problem, and I beat the crap outta' the car daily.
Never had a problem, and I beat the crap outta' the car daily.
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Edelbrock has been making parts for the better part of last century....so they have to know how to do something right. I'm gonna go with installation error on this one as well.
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Re: (civicross)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicross »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Edelbrock has been making parts for the better part of last century....so they have to know how to do something right. I'm gonna go with installation error on this one as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
First off your right, second off :
"Designed by Edelbrock and built by Magneti Marelli Powertrain USA, a major manufacturer of OEM throttle bodies, these throttle bodies are superior in quality and performance. Magneti Marelli USA uses sophisticated machinery to electronically set the butterflies and throttle position sensors. Edelbrock throttle bodies are available in several sizes to suit your application. The smaller size is the first choice for stock or mildly-modified engines, and the larger sizes are for more radical engine combinations and require port matching of the manifold to fit in most cases. All include brand new throttle position sensors that are factory-set and ready to go, right out of the box. These high-quality Edelbrock throttle bodies bolt to the stock manifold with mounts for stock sensors and vacuum lines. "
Heres the link: http://www.edelbrock.com/autom....html
Modified by VenGeanceDrag at 2:46 PM 12/23/2004
First off your right, second off :
"Designed by Edelbrock and built by Magneti Marelli Powertrain USA, a major manufacturer of OEM throttle bodies, these throttle bodies are superior in quality and performance. Magneti Marelli USA uses sophisticated machinery to electronically set the butterflies and throttle position sensors. Edelbrock throttle bodies are available in several sizes to suit your application. The smaller size is the first choice for stock or mildly-modified engines, and the larger sizes are for more radical engine combinations and require port matching of the manifold to fit in most cases. All include brand new throttle position sensors that are factory-set and ready to go, right out of the box. These high-quality Edelbrock throttle bodies bolt to the stock manifold with mounts for stock sensors and vacuum lines. "
Heres the link: http://www.edelbrock.com/autom....html
Modified by VenGeanceDrag at 2:46 PM 12/23/2004
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Re: (Chillinit)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chillinit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe you got a faulty product?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Have seen it before from some of the bigest companies in the world. It just happens.
Have seen it before from some of the bigest companies in the world. It just happens.
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Re: (snowseeker)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nodo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no faulty installation here. i put the motor together myself and used helms for all torque specs. i didn't mess up anything. for the throttle wheel part, i tried to see if maybe it was tight or too close, no play, can't move it. tried to take the plate out to just sand it down, but the srews don't feel too good coming out so i left it. Evil Nick M, why should i change my avatar?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you misunderstood me. I will try and take pictures of what I am talking about.
You should have a set screw that mounts the throttle wheel (the part the cable mounts into) into a shaft that goes through the Throttle body and through the throttle plate.
If the throttle wheel is pushed to far inward on that shaft the back side of the throttle "wheel" will rub and catch on the main outside area of the TB. It will catch very subtly. Somewhere on the wheel there should be a screw you can back out, pull the wheel off the shaft like 1/8 of an inch and then tighten the screw back down. it will work like butter after that.
I think you misunderstood me. I will try and take pictures of what I am talking about.
You should have a set screw that mounts the throttle wheel (the part the cable mounts into) into a shaft that goes through the Throttle body and through the throttle plate.
If the throttle wheel is pushed to far inward on that shaft the back side of the throttle "wheel" will rub and catch on the main outside area of the TB. It will catch very subtly. Somewhere on the wheel there should be a screw you can back out, pull the wheel off the shaft like 1/8 of an inch and then tighten the screw back down. it will work like butter after that.
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when i open the butterfly, i can see the marks where the plate catches on the throttle body. that's why it has to be the plate. the reason i bought the tb was because i too thought it was a good product for the price and beacuse it came with a tps. it has to be defective. and for all you guys saying "installation error", how so? all you do is take it outta the box, put the gasket on and put the tb on. 2bolts and 2 nuts. how is it my error? i am a technician at a dealership, i do this stuff for a living. even as the tb is off my car, the plate still doesn't close all the way. never touched the tb except to put it on. i am sending it back as defective and thinking of buying another in the hopes it was a fluke. i like the piece, but don't need this to happen again. for you guys that have the tb, what color is your throttle plate? that's the only difference i saw was some have gold and some have silverish finishes.
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Re: (VenGeanceDrag)
When your throttle plate sticks you gotta wedge your foot in under the gas and pull up. My RPM TB doesnt like to close al the way right away. Itl chill at like 1800 RPM idle (0.4-.7 percent throttle according to my VAFC) but i can just put my foot under and pul up on the pedal and it will go down to normal.
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Re: (Trooper)
There is goign to be marks. That doesn't mean that is what is catching. The plate is very close to the throttle bore all the way around. Mine has some marks to and I also thought it had to be that making it stick.
It was not. Look at the back side of the throttle wheel I bet $ that is what is sticking. You can sand down the plate all you want and it will still stick.
It was not. Look at the back side of the throttle wheel I bet $ that is what is sticking. You can sand down the plate all you want and it will still stick.
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Re: (Trooper)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trooper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it say JG any where on it? and before you go BASHING some ones product why dont you try givin them a call? </TD></TR></TABLE>
a-men , i have a jg tb on my car and have never had problems with it , nor have my 10 other buddies with them , everyone who has ever made some type of performance comp. and even the factory will have a defective product every once in a while (no one is perfect ) - not even a machine , so i think that you should contact the place you bought it from and swap it out ! and you should probably keep the " don't buy edlebrock throttle body" thing to your self , .....
they have been making great products since before you were born ...
a-men , i have a jg tb on my car and have never had problems with it , nor have my 10 other buddies with them , everyone who has ever made some type of performance comp. and even the factory will have a defective product every once in a while (no one is perfect ) - not even a machine , so i think that you should contact the place you bought it from and swap it out ! and you should probably keep the " don't buy edlebrock throttle body" thing to your self , .....
they have been making great products since before you were born ...
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my throttle plate is gold. i even tried lifting the pedal when it got stuck, the way the cable runs it can't close the plate, it's too tight. i've known people that use this tb too, that's why i decided to try it. i've seen the stuff they make and i have plenty of domestic friends that use their stuff. i'm trying to tell you guys the what happened because there is chance it can happen to you. the marks are grinding marks. it was rubbing real hard on it. the tb is new with 10 miles on it when it happened. so the tb was clean enough to see where it was catching. opumdaze, there was nowhere to pull over, backroads, one lane, no lighting, tight turns. if i shut off someone would come around the corner and hit me. it does say 'JG EDELBROCK" right on it. ho well, its over and done with anyway. just another story now.
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Re: DON'T BUY EDELBROCK THROTTLE BODIES!! (Nodo)
I am sorry for your problems I ran that throttle body for 2 years on my crx no problems... things happen I would reutrn it for another one, in my opinion that throttle body is one of the nicer big throttle boddies made for a honda... On a side note I run a 75mm accufab at the track the throttle linkage broke leaving the car wot going thru the traps @ 150 I let off car kept going... I just turned the ignition off real quick .. The throttle plate got sucked wot cause it no longer had return spring on the main shaft pretty fun... I hope there is not a next time but using aftermarket stuff things will happen... So be careful merry christmas..