Notices
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-18-2003, 11:17 PM
  #1  
Trial User
Thread Starter
 
Screamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 1,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams?

How can you tell the difference between them? Is there any markings on them???
Old 12-19-2003, 06:57 AM
  #2  
Trial User
Thread Starter
 
Screamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 1,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (Screamer)

Anyone .... Please??!!!
Old 12-19-2003, 11:43 AM
  #3  
FSAE
 
92TypeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Drinking Beer, UT
Posts: 5,495
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (Screamer)

Old 12-19-2003, 01:03 PM
  #4  
 
Dammit_Dan_954's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL/ Passaic, NJ
Posts: 1,993
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (92TypeR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92TypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> </TD></TR></TABLE>

In the pic the ctr & the '00 itr are the same. So my questions still stands are they the same cam even thought they have different part #'s????
Old 12-19-2003, 01:10 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
eyeamvic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

00-01 ITR & CTR are the same.
Old 12-19-2003, 01:11 PM
  #6  
Member
 
Mr.Integra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (FastAssEG)

no.. if u look CAREFULLY in the pic, u'll notice that the CTR and ITR cams have different grooves.
Old 12-19-2003, 07:03 PM
  #7  
 
Dammit_Dan_954's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL/ Passaic, NJ
Posts: 1,993
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (Mr.Integra)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.Integra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no.. if u look CAREFULLY in the pic, u'll notice that the CTR and ITR cams have different grooves.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What do u mean? THey both have 2 grooves.
Old 12-19-2003, 07:27 PM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
 
redGSRguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 3,838
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (FastAssEG)

What about the exhaust cam? Anyone have pictures of CTR exhaust cams?
Old 12-19-2003, 07:59 PM
  #9  
 
lsvtec hatch05's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: oregon, usa
Posts: 598
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (redGSRguy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redGSRguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What about the exhaust cam? Anyone have pictures of CTR exhaust cams?</TD></TR></TABLE>

just run a stock exhaust cam
Old 12-19-2003, 08:12 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Hybrid96EK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: In the garage
Posts: 6,919
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (lsvtec hatch05)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsvtec hatch05 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

just run a stock exhaust cam</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know about that. Just because they only typically gain 1hp PEAK doesn't mean it won't help out throughout the entire powerband.
Old 12-19-2003, 09:02 PM
  #11  
 
granada_sun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The CTRs and 00-01 ITR cams are the same...the previous ITRs have less of a duration (and only one ring on the dist. side....why, i have no idea).

But it's a good idea to stick with the pair of cams, chances are the exhaust lobes on the TR's are different than on stock b-series vtec engine.
Old 12-19-2003, 10:13 PM
  #12  
Trial User
Thread Starter
 
Screamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 1,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams? (92TypeR)

I don't think this is right since the 98-00 JDM ITRs also came with the CTR cam. Any comments on that?
Old 12-19-2003, 10:40 PM
  #13  
 
granada_sun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The 97-99 ITR cams were different than the 00-01 ITR cams.

Check it out, the specs are pretty much identical except for the intake side as you can see.


Modified by granada_sun at 8:50 AM 12/20/2003
Old 12-19-2003, 11:41 PM
  #14  
 
granada_sun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Integra Type-R(Through 1999 Spec)
Int-240 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-235 dur. / 10.5mm lift

Civic Type-R And Integra Type-R(Integra Type R 2000/01 Spec)
Int-243 dur. / 11.5mm lift
Exh-235 dur. / 10.5mm lift
Old 12-20-2003, 06:35 AM
  #15  
Trial User
Thread Starter
 
Screamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 1,146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (granada_sun)

Yes, but how do I tell them appart??? That is the JDM of course.
Old 12-20-2003, 07:29 AM
  #16  
 
granada_sun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Pretty sure that all the cams are the same, regardless of JDM or USDM.....they're not like the pistons.
Old 12-20-2003, 10:26 AM
  #17  
FSAE
 
92TypeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Drinking Beer, UT
Posts: 5,495
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: (granada_sun)

Two rings on the distributor side of the intake cam signify the second generation of Type-R intake cam. Single ring means it is the first generation, less duration.

The exhaust cams are identical. No markings changed.

3 duration will push peak power another 100 rpms or so higher, and maybe 1-2 peak hp. You would not be able to tell the difference between the two using a butt dyno.
Old 12-21-2003, 11:56 PM
  #18  
 
granada_sun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So basically the two rings on the distributor side are purely for identifying the cams.

Old 02-21-2004, 10:23 PM
  #19  
Junior Member
 
Vardoulika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Phoeinx, AZ, USA
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (granada_sun)

Look at the pics of the CTR and the 00+ ITR intake cam agian, on the CTR intake cam you have 2 engraved rings and you have 2 protruding rings, on the 00+ ITR intake cam you have 2 engraved rings and 0 protruding rings, the CTR and ITR exhaust cams are exactly the same for all years, they have 1 engraved ring and 2 protruding rings HTH
Old 02-23-2004, 12:07 AM
  #20  
Junior Member
 
eyeamvic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 599
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

No those are not ITR cams.

And the 00-01 ITR intake cam is the same part number as the CTR intake cam.
Old 02-23-2004, 07:32 AM
  #21  
Junior Member
 
Vardoulika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Phoeinx, AZ, USA
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (l Hybrid l)

Nope those are 92/93 GSR cams, hope you didnt buy those thinking they were R's cause you would have been scammed, I had a guy on here try to scam me about an "ITR" exhaust cam user name Snoopy, I am trading my full set of portflows for one and this guy said he had one and sent me pics of a 92/93 gsr cam then when I called him on it he says oh I was tryin to trade it for a friend of mine and didnt know, he told me it was an ITR exhaust cam, bull **** man he was tryin to get something for nothing
Old 02-23-2004, 07:51 AM
  #22  
Junior Member
 
Vardoulika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Phoeinx, AZ, USA
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Vardoulika)

ok here is is using images from the ff-squad site
ITR/CTR exhaust cam exact same camshaft
Notice the 1 engraved ring and the two protruding rings,
this is the ONLY way honda made these, dont let someone
tell you that it was a blank headed one from the factory or
it was a mess up but that its real, if it doesnt have those marks it IS fake:


Here is the R intake cams 95-00 JDM/97-99 USDM ITR, 98+ CTR, and 00+ ITR cams
pay close attention to the rings the 95-00 JDM/97-99 USDM ITR are all the same cam they have 1 engraved ring and 2 protruding rings.
The CTR's have 2 engraved rings and 2 protruding rings,
and the 00+ ITR's have 2 engraved rings and 0 protruding rings


Next
is the B18c1 GSR cams
It has 0 engraved rings and 2 protruding rings


B17a 92/93 GSR cams
Intake cam has 0 engraved rings and 3 protruding rings
Exhaust cam has 1 engraved ring and 3 protruding rings


B16a 92+
Intake cam has 1 engraved ring and 0 protruding rings
Exhaust cam has 1 engraved ring and 0 protruding rings


B16a 88-91
Intake cam has 0 engraved rings and 0 protruding rings
exhaust cam has 0 engraved rings and 0 protruding rings


hope this helps out with some of your questions.
you can find all this info at
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/VtecCams.htm
also has a little bit of cam history on that page.

later,
Jon
Old 02-24-2004, 12:50 AM
  #23  
Junior Member
 
Vardoulika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Phoeinx, AZ, USA
Posts: 510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (l Hybrid l)

Whats his SN? is it Snoopy? cause he is the one that was trying to scam me on it?
Old 02-24-2004, 03:57 AM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Tbone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: North East
Posts: 4,295
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (l Hybrid l)

This post is not enrtirely true, I have 4 sets of 94-99 gsr cams that look exactly like this.


.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by l Hybrid l &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is this a type r camshaft?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Old 02-24-2004, 05:24 AM
  #25  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Gabe_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (granada_sun)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by granada_sun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pretty sure that all the cams are the same, regardless of JDM or USDM.....they're not like the pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

As far as specs go (lift/durration) this is true.

00+ JDM/USDM ITR cams = CTR cams on both intake and exhaust side.


Quick Reply: Difference between ITR and CTR/00-01 ITR cams?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:13 AM.