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Old 04-04-2007, 05:40 PM
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OK...so I got to work on the engine today, struggled with the key that holds the oil pump gear on for 30 minutes. that bitch wouldn't come out. got the pistons, crank, all that **** out. Didnt have time to really look at the bearings, crank didnt look like it had any scoring. here are some pics that I took with my phone. You can see the scarring in piston/cylinder number 1...



the piston



the cylinder



here is a normal looking piston....



normal cylinder...



what causes scarring like this? i will have pics of everything and better ones
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Give us some more info on your setup. The generic answer will be:
1. running lean
2.piston to wall clearance too small
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Default Re: check out the scarring of my pistons... (Phil M)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phil M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Give us some more info on your setup. The generic answer will be:
1. running lean
2.piston to wall clearance too small</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry, I guess I should have done that...

JDM h22 block
p5p type S pistons
all four cylinders call for "B" pistons
these are either OS or "A" pistons

Im not sure, I have yet to mic the pistons to see what the actual bore.
A few months ago, I swapped in this h22, i didnt change anything, guy said he did all the work. I just bought it. The engine drank oil like gatorade, had very low compression and knocked on cylinder number one.

anymore info you need?
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tuned? how many miles on the motor?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egcoupe94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JDM h22 block
p5p type S pistons
all four cylinders call for "B" pistons
these are either OS or "A" pistons

A few months ago, I swapped in this h22, i didnt change anything, guy said he did all the work. I just bought it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

In engine speak, that appears to be "Black Death", which occurs when the piston skirt to cylinder wall clearance becomes to tight. There are a number of reasons that this can occur.

Unfortunately, your pictures don't include all four cylinders, piston tops, or a head shot. From what I CAN see, it appears to be from detonation and/or "foreign material" ingested into the #1 and #2 cylinders.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dinko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tuned? how many miles on the motor? </TD></TR></TABLE>

never tuned, never drove it over 100 miles. dont know about miles.

my friend thinks its from oil starvation, which could be true...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20C5 Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

In engine speak, that appears to be "Black Death", which occurs when the piston skirt to cylinder wall clearance becomes to tight. There are a number of reasons that this can occur.

Unfortunately, your pictures don't include all four cylinders, piston tops, or a head shot. From what I CAN see, it appears to be from detonation and/or "foreign material" ingested into the #1 and #2 cylinders.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry, all I had was my phone to take some pics, I took a pico f the bad one, then one of the ones that didnt have any scarring. I will get better pics today. Maybe you all can help me out then.
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