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Old 06-06-2010, 04:31 PM
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Default Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Hey Guys... whats up!

I need some tips in my new project for build my new B20 block/B16a head...

What I have:
-B16a fully supertech valvetrain
-B20 block STD
-LS Crank STD micropolished and balanced
-EG6 Civic 95'
-Others parts like ARP main and head bolts, girdle kit, moroso oil pan, hondata s300, B16a block with some parts, etc

The project
-B20 block
-Hasport U88 motor mounts
-Wiseco 85mm pistons K594M85 8.25cc+(14.5:1 aprox. will result in my car)
-Eagle H-Beam LS Rods
-Crank OEM LS 89mm micropolished
-Crank pulley N1 OEM
-B16 Head(port-flow work & port-match)
-Conversion kit B20/VTEC Golden Eagle
-Oil Pump ITR
-Water pump OEM
-Valvetrain Supertech, full with titanium valves(std)
-Cams Skunk2 Tunner 3s
-Camgears Skunk2 Pro
-Victor X Intake mani(port-flow work)
-Injectors 550cc RC enginering
-TBI 76mm Blox ou 80mm Mustang
-3” air intake Inox with velocity air stack (race mode)
-Short Ram 3” Inox with Filter(street mode)
-Main Girdle Golden Eagle
-Girdle Kit B18C5 OEM with ARP hardware B18C5
-Moroso Oil Pan
-Timing Belt for GSR Gates Racing
-No P/S(get out)
-Final Drive 4.78 OEM type R/Mfactory
-Denso 13x8 wheels
-Tires MT 22x8x13
-Header Bseries Tri-y(street mode) e 3” full exhaust
-Header DTR/SSR side exhaust(race mode)
-Fuel pump Bosch 044

Tune:
-Hondata S300
-9500rpm rev limiter

Fuel:
-Alcohol 110 octanes

My target: 250whp


What u think guys???? Im in right way??? Some suggestion for better result?
Im in Brazil and my ET target is 12's in 1/4 mile...

thanks
Old 06-06-2010, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

I built something similar years ago on a 86mm 13.7:1 wiseco pistons it made 250whp it was fun on a gutted crx
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Originally Posted by diogolucindo
Hey Guys... whats up!

I need some tips in my new project for build my new B20 block/B16a head...

What I have:
-B16a fully supertech valvetrain
-B20 block STD
-LS Crank STD micropolished and balanced
-EG6 Civic 95'
-Others parts like ARP main and head bolts, girdle kit, moroso oil pan, hondata s300, B16a block with some parts, etc

The project
-B20 block
-Hasport U88 motor mounts
-Wiseco 85mm pistons K594M85 8.25cc+(14.5:1 aprox. will result in my car)
-Eagle H-Beam LS Rods
-Crank OEM LS 89mm micropolished
-Crank pulley N1 OEM
-B16 Head(port-flow work & port-match)
-Conversion kit B20/VTEC Golden Eagle
-Oil Pump ITR
-Water pump OEM
-Valvetrain Supertech, full with titanium valves(std)
-Cams Skunk2 Tunner 3s
-Camgears Skunk2 Pro
-Victor X Intake mani(port-flow work)
-Injectors 550cc RC enginering
-TBI 76mm Blox ou 80mm Mustang
-3” air intake Inox with velocity air stack (race mode)
-Short Ram 3” Inox with Filter(street mode)
-Main Girdle Golden Eagle
-Girdle Kit B18C5 OEM with ARP hardware B18C5
-Moroso Oil Pan
-Timing Belt for GSR Gates Racing
-No P/S(get out)
-Final Drive 4.78 OEM type R/Mfactory
-Denso 13x8 wheels
-Tires MT 22x8x13
-Header Bseries Tri-y(street mode) e 3” full exhaust
-Header DTR/SSR side exhaust(race mode)
-Fuel pump Bosch 044

Tune:
-Hondata S300
-9500rpm rev limiter

Fuel:
-Alcohol 110 octanes

My target: 250whp


What u think guys???? Im in right way??? Some suggestion for better result?
Im in Brazil and my ET target is 12's in 1/4 mile...

thanks
I dont think you should have a problem hitting your goals if all goes well. It might even be in the 11s depending on suspension, weight, and driver. GL on your build!
Old 06-07-2010, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Originally Posted by k20coupe
I built something similar years ago on a 86mm 13.7:1 wiseco pistons it made 250whp it was fun on a gutted crx
OIC... fine...

Originally Posted by jv88_dc2
I dont think you should have a problem hitting your goals if all goes well. It might even be in the 11s depending on suspension, weight, and driver. GL on your build!
Fine... I looking for a set of omni-power or blox drag specs coilover, fully weightless chassi and my weight is 175 lbs... I have some experience in drag race, so thats no problem...



Guys, an doubt: I have a set of Hoosier 26x8x15... Is a very big tire for all motors, right??? Because in my last stroker B16 turbo engine, was very well... And it still like new...

I have a doubt about the OEM sleeves too... It supports the rev limit what I intend to achieve(9.5k)? And the sleeves supports this power? I dont have any experience with B20 block...

Thank u guys...
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

with that set-up if it really makes 250whp u can still get away with 23" slicks
I had a set-up like that but sold everything and went turbo. good luck!!
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Originally Posted by 092eg6
with that set-up if it really makes 250whp u can still get away with 23" slicks
I had a set-up like that but sold everything and went turbo. good luck!!
U mean 23x8.5x15 MH?
I looking this tires before... Is a good choice??? Better then 22" MT?

ty
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

And about sleeves???? Could someone tell me some experience in B20 all motor?
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

We have a all motor car currently on stock sleeves at 85mm with arais 14:1 piston no problems yet (cross fingers) look at sign vvvvv
Running e85
sleeves are holding so far (12 dyno pulls, 6 1320 runs, more to come)
good luck with build.
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Originally Posted by 209lsr_ly
We have a all motor car currently on stock sleeves at 85mm with arais 14:1 piston no problems yet (cross fingers) look at sign vvvvv
Running e85
sleeves are holding so far (12 dyno pulls, 6 1320 runs, more to come)
good luck with build.
Hey bro... 11.8 is a great pass for b20vtec...
Im in Brazil... There is no b20vtec runing here yet... We are assembling the first for drag race and berely street use(only at night... lol)...
So, for drag, whats your setup of suspension and wheels/tires? Can u say it?

TY bro...
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i dont think u should rev to 9500 with that block. other then that ur fine. look into a block guard and i believe there called posts or something. you need to drill into the side of the block and install little posts to hold the sleeves from shifting in hii rpm. ur motor wont last long at 9500 rpm. look into getting a sleeved block if your going to spend all this money.
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Dude, I have a message for ya:

First, YOU ARE GOIANO!!!! hahahahaha


second.. 14.5 compression is way too high for a street setup, even with E100, and 76mm tb is way too big IMHO.

N1 crank pulley? just use a OEM damper.

Who the hell is doing the head work? THe last 50 morons that touched this honda heads in Brazil screwed them up. LOL. If I were you, i'd just remove casting marks and head imperfections like in valve seats.


Stick with tuner 3 cams. I'm pretty sure that no one around you know how to install pro-series cams. Actually, I know 5 or 6 people that used pro2 and pro3 cams in brazil, none of them did it right, I wonder how nothing ever happen to them. LOL again.



Now I'm gonna f*** you up:

Please make sure you torque the rod bolts to anything more than just hand tight, we don't want this to happen again:



oh, and I really hope you don't plan on welding this girdle and reusing it:






OU GOIANO, se vc for usar mesmo 85mm, me chama urgente assim que me vir online, pq eu achei um outro bloco 84.5mm com vira STD, o filho da puta ta pedindo 250, mas de repente te interessa... Sei lá...

Te zuei hein :fu:



Falow, bye
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Oh, and as for the revs, you know my setup is not as fancy as yours, just some cast pistons, stock rods, etc etc, but after you blow your *** out again @ 9500rpm, I'll pass by shifting @ 8.2k with a big smile in my face, hopefully, with my new paint job done and those BBS i've been dreaming for over a year..



to vendo um filme com humanos e dinossauros vivendo na mesma época. WTF?!
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Default Re: Building in progress: B20/VTEC 14.5:1 all motor - need tips

Originally Posted by RED_90TEG
i dont think u should rev to 9500 with that block. other then that ur fine. look into a block guard and i believe there called posts or something. you need to drill into the side of the block and install little posts to hold the sleeves from shifting in hii rpm. ur motor wont last long at 9500 rpm. look into getting a sleeved block if your going to spend all this money.
oic... So, 9k is a good rev limiter for the stock sleeves?
In time, i think in use an golden eagle blockguard same...

Someone rev up to 9k in a B20 block standard sleeves with bg?

thanks
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What was all that about? Sounds like someone has some issues!
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