Which is better All Motor h2b or B-series?
07-17-2010, 12:19 AM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
you now what you should go whit the b20b or z vtec gsr head whit some nice cams and a many you should go faster than a h two b i cant prove it live it been there all motor vs all motor .bseries 818 310 4360
07-17-2010, 01:30 AM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
Yes a mildly built b20 vtec might beat a stock h2b. What if you mildly build the h2b? What happens then. It's a no brainer. When I started racing all the hype was b20 vtec. You know what they were all running mid to high 13's even 14's. Now lets talk h2b. I can almost say guarantee 12's stock untouched. Now just look at my sig and tell me if your stock unmolested b20 vtec can do that? Remeber my motor is internally stock top to bottom with a stock manifold. Only thing that is not stock is the Tri-y header and 68mm throttle body. If I remember correctly there are some guys running high 11's with Pro 1's only.
07-17-2010, 10:14 AM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
what tires did u use when u ran 12 something wit a stock h2b with headers?
Yes a mildly built b20 vtec might beat a stock h2b. What if you mildly build the h2b? What happens then. It's a no brainer. When I started racing all the hype was b20 vtec. You know what they were all running mid to high 13's even 14's. Now lets talk h2b. I can almost say guarantee 12's stock untouched. Now just look at my sig and tell me if your stock unmolested b20 vtec can do that? Remeber my motor is internally stock top to bottom with a stock manifold. Only thing that is not stock is the Tri-y header and 68mm throttle body. If I remember correctly there are some guys running high 11's with Pro 1's only.
07-17-2010, 01:09 PM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
hood tilt, hood prop, whatever it is. You have to prop your hood up with the qsd kit. Heres a picture of my own car for example.
07-19-2010, 11:47 PM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
i would go for the h2b. just got mine done and i'm lovin it. mine is basically stock with more potential to it. guarantee you'll love it. mine is used for daily driven too.
07-20-2010, 12:03 AM
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I have a h2b that isn't making any were near the power that it should be right now and its still pretty decent. I love it. the tq makes it alot of fun to drive over the average B series. the swap is def alot more work though. but most people drop their jaws when they see my bay 
10-08-2010, 01:30 AM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
h2b is the **** I made 209 hp and ran a 13@f on streets ran my slick and ran a 12.5 .. I got no prblem with closing my hood .. And true for a pretty stocl h22 just a different tranny their nasty.. I beat my buddy in his k20 eg .. I used to be nothing but b series guy .. And hatedh22s now I love it their natural monsters ... Working on my cams and valves retainers springs and hopefully break 11s all motor can a b20 do that under 3k no
10-08-2010, 03:55 AM
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10-08-2010, 05:20 AM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
Yes K swap has bearing. Unfortunately, the OP failed to consider all options and therefore bypassed asking the correct question. OP also failed to add in what his final goals(10sec/11/12/autocross/etc) were and in what chassis/weight. If hes seeking the easiest way to hit 12's or 11's then prolly H2b or b20v, but if he says 10's then prolly K.
10-08-2010, 12:17 PM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
im almost done wit my allmotor lsvtec..but i wish i had gone h2b...after the bisi header and cams plus what ill spend tuning im over what an h2b would have cost...and ill be slower..
10-08-2010, 03:35 PM
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K series motors have infinite trans problems so you cant call an h2b a poor mans K, a h2b will outshift a K anyday...
i don't know how realistic it is to have a 300hp dd motor...i guess to each his own...i'm partially biased towards a B20V only because i had one for a daily driver for like 3-4 years...it's not on the bottle but i'm sure i put down about the same amount of torque as an H2x motor....what do you think??
as far as your b20v trq, it might be near that of a stock h22 motor with a b trans when just comparing numbers but a h22's powerband will start a lot earlier than a B series.
So to answer the OP, go with an h2b if you are trying to get anywhere near 300 hp on a daily driver, but don't expect that to be the number that shows up when you are at the dyno.
Even a big boy K series wont get you to 300 hp without it needing race gas and having idle issues...
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10-08-2010, 04:17 PM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
A 300 hp daily driver is damn near impossible and would be horrible in daily driven traffic, what a nightmare.
as far as your b20v trq, it might be near that of a stock h22 motor with a b trans when just comparing numbers but a h22's powerband will start a lot earlier than a B series.
So to answer the OP, go with an h2b if you are trying to get anywhere near 300 hp on a daily driver, but don't expect that to be the number that shows up when you are at the dyno.
Even a big boy K series wont get you to 300 hp without it needing race gas and idle issues...
recently got my new motor put in nd tuned. Really happy with the results!
K24a2 block built
88mm 13.7:1 wiseco pistons
Blueprint Pro series Lightweight I-beam rods
Factory 99mm crank micropolished and fully balanced
Golden eagle headstuds
Golden eagle 88mm laser cut OEM headgasket
All new factory main and rod bearing along with a new rear main seal
Brand new Type-s oil pump and baffle
Brand new timing chain, guides, and tensioner
type s starter
Head:
TSX head
Fully ported heads with 3 angle valve job
Skunk 2 stage 3 cams
Supertech valvesprings
Supertech Titanium retainers
Supertech valvespring seats
Supertech valve seals
Manley stainless steal valves
Manley valve locks
Blueprint Racing Ported RBC manifold (6 hours of porting)
Fuel:
Precision 650cc injectors
Golden Eagle Fuel Rail
K-Tuned FPR
Walbro 255 Pump
Yosolo Tuned on 93 Octane
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K24a2 block built
88mm 13.7:1 wiseco pistons
Blueprint Pro series Lightweight I-beam rods
Factory 99mm crank micropolished and fully balanced
Golden eagle headstuds
Golden eagle 88mm laser cut OEM headgasket
All new factory main and rod bearing along with a new rear main seal
Brand new Type-s oil pump and baffle
Brand new timing chain, guides, and tensioner
type s starter
Head:
TSX head
Fully ported heads with 3 angle valve job
Skunk 2 stage 3 cams
Supertech valvesprings
Supertech Titanium retainers
Supertech valvespring seats
Supertech valve seals
Manley stainless steal valves
Manley valve locks
Blueprint Racing Ported RBC manifold (6 hours of porting)
Fuel:
Precision 650cc injectors
Golden Eagle Fuel Rail
K-Tuned FPR
Walbro 255 Pump
Yosolo Tuned on 93 Octane
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10-08-2010, 05:19 PM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
No fair, he has two heads on that K series...
anyway, 13.7:1 comp on pump gas, give me a break. Im scared running my 13.x:1 comp setup on e85...
Here is a dyno graph of my setup since we are comparing ***** sizes...
This is my 89mmx95mm h2b setup.
anyway, 13.7:1 comp on pump gas, give me a break. Im scared running my 13.x:1 comp setup on e85...
Here is a dyno graph of my setup since we are comparing ***** sizes...
This is my 89mmx95mm h2b setup.
10-08-2010, 06:30 PM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
i don't know how realistic it is to have a 300hp dd motor...i guess to each his own...i'm partially biased towards a B20V only because i had one for a daily driver for like 3-4 years...it's not on the bottle but i'm sure i put down about the same amount of torque as an H2x motor....what do you think??
10-08-2010, 09:38 PM
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10-09-2010, 12:14 AM
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Re: wiTcH is better aLl motor h2b or bserIes? :?
H series.
2.2 vs. 1.8-2.0L
As the saying goes...No replacement for a bigger engine(or something like that).
I rode in an H22 (stock) eg hatch a long time ago.It pulled harder than my $5k JDM ITR swap.
2.2 liters or more are where its at these days...
2.2 vs. 1.8-2.0L
As the saying goes...No replacement for a bigger engine(or something like that).
I rode in an H22 (stock) eg hatch a long time ago.It pulled harder than my $5k JDM ITR swap.
2.2 liters or more are where its at these days...