basic all motor ls going into a very light car
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basic all motor ls going into a very light car
Im posting on here so that I could share my project and get some insight as well from some others who have been down this road. Im not building it to be the fastest car but to have a nice fat powerband and just be overall enjoyable
stock b18a1 shortblock for now. smokes a bit lol
89 pr4 casted head milled .030"
ported the head myself, deshrouded the valves and blended the valve seats as well as took some material away from the short turn radius.
1 ply h.g.
re lapped all valves by hand
stock valves, retainers
new supertech valve stem seals
supertech single valve springs
crower 403 cams with stock gears for now
hytech rep ($130 shipped ebay special)
b16a2 intake manifold
58mm t.b. from the 90 da motor, tapered it from 65mm to the plate.
home made 3" to 3.5" cold air intake or straight 3" intake with velocity stack through the front bumper
8lb aluminum flywheel
clutch masters stg 3 clutch (got used for $60 )
cable ls tranny with welded diff
home made solid mounts
ef8 shiftlinkage
tuned by me on s300
this will all be in a 1750lb crx.
this setup has ran a 8.4 @ 82.79mph so far with the old ls.
switched to a b20 block with the same head on it and ran a 12.96 @ 106.6 on 4-29-11. I need to get better then a 1.91 60' and it will get some decent times.
ran 12.76 @ 105.6 with just changing the slicks on 5-14-11 new times coming soon.
stock b18a1 shortblock for now. smokes a bit lol
89 pr4 casted head milled .030"
ported the head myself, deshrouded the valves and blended the valve seats as well as took some material away from the short turn radius.
1 ply h.g.
re lapped all valves by hand
stock valves, retainers
new supertech valve stem seals
supertech single valve springs
crower 403 cams with stock gears for now
hytech rep ($130 shipped ebay special)
b16a2 intake manifold
58mm t.b. from the 90 da motor, tapered it from 65mm to the plate.
home made 3" to 3.5" cold air intake or straight 3" intake with velocity stack through the front bumper
8lb aluminum flywheel
clutch masters stg 3 clutch (got used for $60 )
cable ls tranny with welded diff
home made solid mounts
ef8 shiftlinkage
tuned by me on s300
this will all be in a 1750lb crx.
this setup has ran a 8.4 @ 82.79mph so far with the old ls.
switched to a b20 block with the same head on it and ran a 12.96 @ 106.6 on 4-29-11. I need to get better then a 1.91 60' and it will get some decent times.
ran 12.76 @ 105.6 with just changing the slicks on 5-14-11 new times coming soon.
Last edited by K7-1Ktrevor; 05-16-2011 at 12:49 PM.
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Why would you weld the diff? This isn't an '85 Camaro
The b16 trans will be great even open diff, but if you really want an LSD get a 4.4fd LSD type r or even better a 4.7fd type r trans
*edit* also if your running aftermarket cams and valvesprings its safe bet to go with aftermarket retainers of the same manufacture of your springs
The b16 trans will be great even open diff, but if you really want an LSD get a 4.4fd LSD type r or even better a 4.7fd type r trans
*edit* also if your running aftermarket cams and valvesprings its safe bet to go with aftermarket retainers of the same manufacture of your springs
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Iv ran a welded diff before on my 11 sec ls turbo hatch with no problems. I love the way it makes the car handle. thanks for the input though.
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lol. don't knock it before you try it.my last welded diff ls tranny held up to 360whp 320tq. I beat the crap out of it all day long and it made the car way more stable. in the corners it was a day and night difference. it got rid of almost any under steer and made the car much more predictable. it was very point and shoot in cornering.
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Re: basic all motor ls going into a very light car
These guys are just hating because it's a V8 trick. All too often people get into the "Honda Power" mentality. I never did think of welding the diff, but if it's out and you have a welder, why not. Especially with a throw away tranny.
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ya I try to stay open minded. this car is going to be somewhat of a rat anyways I just got done spraying the whole shell satin black and it came out really nice. Ill post some pics when I can take a few. I hope to make somewhere between 150-160whp which should put this car in the mid to high 13's due to the weight.
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i love budget builds that run good...the welded diff will help greatly if you are on street tires!!!...what exhaust are you gonna run??? i would say spray a 75 shot on it and have fun hurting alot of feelings
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Welded diff? always wanted to try that. Idk i would just think upgrading to a vtec head would be less of a head ache. I mean cams/valve train (im guessing its required to run those cams) and all that jazz just for somethings that doable with an all oem b16/gsr head.
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I have a similar setup with my stock block b20 vtec with b16 head and trans in a EG coupe. Like you said it has a nice torquey powerband with the short geared b16 trans makes it a blast to drive....
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I don't know why but Iv never really liked ls vtecs lol. I just wanna have something that really shouldn't be fast at all but beat cars due to traction and driver. who is going to expect a ls to be actually fast lol.
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camber kit
ls head with b16 intake manifold. I need to find a new head cause the one I got off cl has some bent valves.
crower 403s thanks to natural aspirations (even though hes as hard headed as me lol)
exhaust, hytech rep header
repainted the stock uca before installing the camber kit
uca with camber kit install. looks really nice when you take your time
my 22's need tubes for them because they are old rubber and cracked. still ran a 12.5 first pass with my h2b ef sedan
ls head with b16 intake manifold. I need to find a new head cause the one I got off cl has some bent valves.
crower 403s thanks to natural aspirations (even though hes as hard headed as me lol)
exhaust, hytech rep header
repainted the stock uca before installing the camber kit
uca with camber kit install. looks really nice when you take your time
my 22's need tubes for them because they are old rubber and cracked. still ran a 12.5 first pass with my h2b ef sedan
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Re: basic all motor ls going into a very light car
My friend ran 13.5 on a similar setup minus the welded diff
Also never had a problem with a welding diff besides the tire squealing on sharp turns
U should try the p8r head
And doing a hood light that is lighter, but the hood tends to warp
Clean rex bro
Also never had a problem with a welding diff besides the tire squealing on sharp turns
U should try the p8r head
And doing a hood light that is lighter, but the hood tends to warp
Clean rex bro
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Id be really happy with a 13.50 and ya the welded diff kinda sucks in parking lots lol. Im in the process of looking for either a ported ls head or p8r head but its taking longer then expected. I did a couple of tack welds from the hood support to the hood and that helped a little bit but its definitely more flexible lol. I just got done mocking up my ebay exhaust and I actually really like how it fits. Ill take a bunch of pics tomorrow of the progress on the car.
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Looking good man. Looking forward to seeing the outcome of the build. And what's with the 85' Camaro comment? lol, I've had a few of that generation and never a welded diff Props Trevor on going with it, I've ran welded diffs on some offroad toys and your right, parking lots suck but it's not that big of a deal.
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Re: basic all motor ls going into a very light car
I have a full set of valves if you need them and a head.
A set of b16 pistons would really bring this engine up to par.
The valvetrain is safe until at least 7800, that's what I was spinning it to on a stock b20 (supercharged) so no need for retainers you shouldn't need to rev that high.
I wouldn't get carried away porting the manifold but a 65mm throttle body would help.
A set of b16 pistons would really bring this engine up to par.
The valvetrain is safe until at least 7800, that's what I was spinning it to on a stock b20 (supercharged) so no need for retainers you shouldn't need to rev that high.
I wouldn't get carried away porting the manifold but a 65mm throttle body would help.
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ya I have a full other parts head with straight valves in it too I just don't wanna have the valves not seal properly or have to do another valve job. really looking for a well done ported head at the moment. Im hoping I can up the cr enough with milling and one plying the motor.
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Re: basic all motor ls going into a very light car
if you weld the diff you better make sure its super clean. even than its going to turn out shitty. and if you break and axle good luck with that.
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I use 2 cans of brake clean to clean the diff and make sure its spotless prior to welding it.