b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
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b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
ok so here is my settup, b20b block bored to 85mm, 85mm rs type r style pistons, eagle h beams, B16 head milled .030, ctr cams, aebs intake mani, aem fpr, bolt ons ++++ anywho im running 440 cc injectors and need to know what fuel pressure to run and im also tuning with a wideband and a vafc2 with a chipped p28 and running 93 octane(yea i know the afc is junk but i already had it and my budget ran over for a few months and just want to get a base down so i can drive this untill i can afford Hondata) so i was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what to put my afc settings at for a decent street tune so i can have some fun without detonation. also wondering if anyone has any idea what my compression ratio should be now, i was assuming around 12.5 :1 but really dont know... and lastly lol i have a friend that is doubting that i will make even 200 whp on this settup, let me know what you guys think, i am supplying a full mod list below.... thanks
Engine
B20B Block 85mm bore (rebuilt with brand new OEM pumps, timing belt, and seals)
ACL Race Bearings
B16A2 Head Milled .030 minor porting and pollishing
Integra GSR Hydrolic 5 speed transmission
OEM Civic Type R Cams
Eagle H-Beam connecting rods
RS Machines Civic Type R Style 85mm pistons
ARP Head Studs
ARP Rod Bolts
Golden Eagle VTEC Conversion Kit
4-1 Header
Apexi N1full 2.5 inch exhaust (no cat)
Password JDM Air intake and custom ram air kit
AEBS Performance intake Manifold
BDL 70mm Throttle body
Hondata Intake Manifold gasket
ACT Heavy duty clutch
ACT prolight flywheel
Stainless clutch line
OEM Civic Type R N1 crank pulley
B&M Short throw shifter
Fuel System
RC 440cc fuel injectors
STR high flow fuel rail
Walbro 255 fuel pump
AEM fuel pressure regulator
Suspension and Chasis
Front upper strut tower bar
Rear upper strut tower bar
KYB AGX fully adjustable struts
Eibach sportline springs
Skunk 2 front upper control arms with full camber adjustment
Jimfab front motor mounts
Energy Suspension motor mount inserts
B-Pillar Bar (with custom camcorder mount)
Suspension Techniques rear sway bar
Willwood Dynalite Big Brake Kit
16" MB Weapon Mugen style wheels
Falken Azenis Tires
Electronics and Guages
Chipped P28 ECU
Rywire obd 2 - obd 1 conversion harness
APEXi V-AFC2
PLX Wideband
B&M fuel pressure guage
Autometer Oil pressue guage
Autometer Air/Fuel ratio guage
Engine
B20B Block 85mm bore (rebuilt with brand new OEM pumps, timing belt, and seals)
ACL Race Bearings
B16A2 Head Milled .030 minor porting and pollishing
Integra GSR Hydrolic 5 speed transmission
OEM Civic Type R Cams
Eagle H-Beam connecting rods
RS Machines Civic Type R Style 85mm pistons
ARP Head Studs
ARP Rod Bolts
Golden Eagle VTEC Conversion Kit
4-1 Header
Apexi N1full 2.5 inch exhaust (no cat)
Password JDM Air intake and custom ram air kit
AEBS Performance intake Manifold
BDL 70mm Throttle body
Hondata Intake Manifold gasket
ACT Heavy duty clutch
ACT prolight flywheel
Stainless clutch line
OEM Civic Type R N1 crank pulley
B&M Short throw shifter
Fuel System
RC 440cc fuel injectors
STR high flow fuel rail
Walbro 255 fuel pump
AEM fuel pressure regulator
Suspension and Chasis
Front upper strut tower bar
Rear upper strut tower bar
KYB AGX fully adjustable struts
Eibach sportline springs
Skunk 2 front upper control arms with full camber adjustment
Jimfab front motor mounts
Energy Suspension motor mount inserts
B-Pillar Bar (with custom camcorder mount)
Suspension Techniques rear sway bar
Willwood Dynalite Big Brake Kit
16" MB Weapon Mugen style wheels
Falken Azenis Tires
Electronics and Guages
Chipped P28 ECU
Rywire obd 2 - obd 1 conversion harness
APEXi V-AFC2
PLX Wideband
B&M fuel pressure guage
Autometer Oil pressue guage
Autometer Air/Fuel ratio guage
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
jeez 13 views and not a one reply??? someone at least flame me jeez... lol btw bump before bed
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
any B20 vtec will hit more than 200 at the wheel easily
with ur 85mm setup, you will make more than 220 with CTR cams...depends on dyno..
but I would stay away from that high CR with 85mm STOCK Bore
with ur 85mm setup, you will make more than 220 with CTR cams...depends on dyno..
but I would stay away from that high CR with 85mm STOCK Bore
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
lol too late to go back, motor is already together, any ideas on the other questions? thanks for the input btw.
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
With the proper tuning and a free flowing Intake+Exhaust you should be in the low 200 range, depending on how the dyno reads. I wouldn't get caught up in the numbers game, make sure you have a solid tune and enjoy the ride.
I'm running a silimar setup 210hp 148Tq , details below
I'm running a silimar setup 210hp 148Tq , details below
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
do you have the pistons and rods? because those pistons will not mate to your rods.. oem is press fit, aftermarket floating pin. you need to machine your pistons
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
ditch the vafc and just use the chipped ecu, thats a bandaid on top of a healed cut dude, tune on the the ecu and dont manipulate a perfectly good set of signals with an AFC
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
the rs machines pistons are made to fit aftermarket rods......and as i said before the afc tuning is a temporary fix until i can afford to get hondata and a tune.
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
i have chrome on my laptop, how do i hook up to my car to be able to tune?? do i need to connect to the obd port somehow?
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
Here's a good link if your a DIY guy, but be prepared to roll up your selves and do some reading.
http://forum.pgmfi.org/index.php
Xenocron.com
http://www.xenocron.com/techcenter.php
Moates.net
http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=73_69
http://forum.pgmfi.org/index.php
Xenocron.com
http://www.xenocron.com/techcenter.php
Moates.net
http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=73_69
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
Here's a good link if your a DIY guy, but be prepared to roll up your selves and do some reading.
http://forum.pgmfi.org/index.php
Xenocron.com
http://www.xenocron.com/techcenter.php
Moates.net
http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=73_69
http://forum.pgmfi.org/index.php
Xenocron.com
http://www.xenocron.com/techcenter.php
Moates.net
http://www.moates.net/index.php?cPath=73_69
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
The cable is just for the connection, You will need Crome Pro to data log with Crome.
As far as free stuff
Freelog used to work, but things change with revisions and I can't say for sure that it still would. There is a freelog forum on the pgmfi site.
Good Luck
As far as free stuff
Freelog used to work, but things change with revisions and I can't say for sure that it still would. There is a freelog forum on the pgmfi site.
Good Luck
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
You will need a few more things to chip your ECU, plus a romulator and chip burner. Don't forget the wide band.
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Re: b20vtec new build, nead advice on a few things
i wouldn't run the vafc even for temporary use. if you can't afford a tune right away i would just let the car sit until it's ready. with that much compression you will need to adjust your ignition timing; the vafc can't do that. so if you're driving around with your new setup on the vafc, there's a good chance something might go wrong. although you might get away with the vafc if you run really high octane to avoid detonation. no offense but i'm a little confused on how you manage to do this all this stuff to your car but know little to nothing about tuning/chipping? but you got a nice setup coming along so goodluck.
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