lilbill_ed8

i need to purchase head studs for my motor the ones that came out of it are rusty and i read somewhere not to use the old ones because they stretch .. the first place i turned was ARP but they seem kinda up there in price for ten studs and i dont really want to wait for them to come in so i can drive my car .. then i though how about just getting some grade 8 studs and bolts from ACE hardware or LOWES .. im just wondering how much R&D goes into a stud that makes it worth $100+ when i can get the same thing alot cheaper at a hardware store

my motor is not under the stress of force induction or a bottle and never will be, and im not expecting that much power .. its a d16a6 with p29 pistons and a little head work .. it might see 7500 rpm every once in a while but thats it

thanks for your help in advance

4g hatch

if i was you,i would take a wirebrush wheel and clean and oil the old ones and reuse them,before i tried to use something from ace on something like that. also your probably not gonna find the exact thread pitch and your gonna mess up your threads. ive reused old head bolts on daily drivers many times,but in my opinion the arp's are worth the $

lilbill_ed8

i tried the wire wheel and some of them came out great but 4 of them are so messed up that they dont want to tread into the block .. i have used ace plenty of time before .. for example, every nut and bolt in my suspension is from ace and i havent had a problem getting the wrong thread pitch .. and i know arps are worth the money but the are kinda over kill for my set up .. if i absolutely have to then i will get the ARP's .. but im always out to find a way to save money

GhostAccord

If your always out to save a buck then re-using a rusted & over streached head bolt under a valve cover is the cheapest way to go. The look of a head bolt has nothign to do with it's strength & performance. There is a reason they are a one use bolt. Streatch

The dealership is much cheaper than ARP if your just looking to replace the head bolts why not go there? Hey if your that into keeping pennies in your pocket and you can find the proper lenth, diameter and thread pitch grade 8 bolt at ACE. Go for it and keep us informed.

kyden

um, no on the ace hardware stuff, thats a terrible idea.

tegra2G

you can order anything from fastenal..
I am building a b18c and when I took the headstuds out tossed them in the trash and ordered some ARP studs, and it comes with the lube

hondachris1994

Ace or any hardware store does not have the grade bolts needed for your motor. Either get a tap and die set and it comes with a re-threader for your bolts and threads so that they are clean of debri and everything threads correctly or buy new headbolts, thats just my .02 cents

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yes there was some r + d to have alist like that.

we are talking about 100 bucks here? save for an extra month if you have too. this isnt like buying a replica part or something where you can get away with it.

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Do tensile and shear strength, and surface hardness tests on both fasteners of comparable configuration and size. Post the results.

DonF

ACE sounds lioke a good idea, let us know how that works out.

BMo Tuning

ace is the place

just ask john madden

2fastGSR

terrible. . .

I won't be suprised if i log onto HT in the near future and where the All motor forum used to be , there is just a CLOSED sign . . .

lilbill_ed8

thank you guys for all the input .. i am going to try the hardware store studs and see what happens .. in the event that everything should go terribly wrong i have another block and head in my garage that i can use .. i wont be able to post results ASAP because my friend talked me into doing a wire tuck while the car is down .. thanks once again for all the help

BMo Tuning

wtf

Scott_Tucker

Make sure you get the grade 8 ones. They are the ones with the 5 slashes on the head. They will be tighter in the holes but that's because they're stronger. The torque specs will be different too. Just tighten them till they strip and back them out a quarter turn. ;-)

FST GSR 1

It's really too bad this is the typical enthusiast these days.

KillaSIPP

lmao!!

Phil M

This guy has to be trolling, there is no way someone in their right mind would really do that.

2fastGSR

Its a generation of teenagers raised by half assed, wanna be handymen, accountant fathers . . .

I would expect nothing less

Terrible . . .

JDM JEFFREY

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Use the ace head bolts and let us know how long it hold...your going to do it anyways.
Ace Hardware for head bolts wtf have peolpe come too..

tealchief

what does this have to do with the topic...no helpwhatsoever

ABK

Don't use ace. You have no idea what to toque them to (each bolt, stud takes different amount of torque to produce enough clamping force to keep the head down) even if you find a right bolt. ARPs are worth the money, but you should be able to get away with using the stock ones.

DrSeuss

Metric fasteners aren't rated as "Grade 8". There's "Class 8.8" and "Class 10.9" Look for the Class 10.9 bolts which is the closest equivalent to a Grade 8 bolt.

2fastGSR

If you have to ask then I must have hit the nail on the head and was describing you to a T . . .

LS AzZkIkr

I am sure that either here on h-t, ebay, vadriven.com(since your from Va), or richmond craigslist you can find some oem or arp headstuds. I bought mine for $75.