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Old 01-02-2012, 11:57 AM
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ok after finally dyno tuning im not so pleased with the numbers.. 199.7whp on dyno jet

you guys be the judge on this to see if the numbers look ok to you.. here is the build specs

96 spec Jdm ITR block (stock)
LSD ITR tranny with stage 4 clutch
b16a head:
port/polished
supertech valve springs/retainers, flat faced black nitride valves
skunk2 stage 2 (thats wat i was told from a friend, which i still doubt they are)
stock cam gears- my skunk2 i bought used had some chips in the teeth that might of ripped the timing belt.. swapped before the dyno began
3in aem CAI
70mm TB port matched to
stock itr manifold port matched to head (manifold ported 3inches deep into the runners)
440rc injectors
fuel rail/regulator
walbro 255lph fuel pump and new oem fuel filter
hytech replica tri-y header
2 1/2 inch straight piping to exhaust
p28 running on hondata s100

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Impressive numbers, what's the tq like??
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his dyno had only whp #'s no torque
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his dyno had only whp #'s no torque
must of been having problems with the pickups, common on Dynojets.
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Originally Posted by eg6 type-R
ok after finally dyno tuning im not so pleased with the numbers.. 199.7whp on dyno jet

you guys be the judge on this to see if the numbers look ok to you.. here is the build specs

96 spec Jdm ITR block (stock)
LSD ITR tranny with stage 4 clutch
b16a head:
port/polished
supertech valve springs/retainers, flat faced black nitride valves
skunk2 stage 2 (thats wat i was told from a friend, which i still doubt they are)
stock cam gears- my skunk2 i bought used had some chips in the teeth that might of ripped the timing belt.. swapped before the dyno began
3in aem CAI
70mm TB port matched to
stock itr manifold port matched to head (manifold ported 3inches deep into the runners)
440rc injectors
fuel rail/regulator
walbro 255lph fuel pump and new oem fuel filter
hytech replica tri-y header
2 1/2 inch straight piping to exhaust
p28 running on hondata s100
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yo just got a jdmzc sohc 1.6 and i got a 97 civc dx 4dr and im having probs getn it started i have to spray some intake cleaner in there to get it to go
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must of been having problems with the pickups, common on Dynojets.
top end feels great though, took out an h22 on slicks an me on street tires passed him on top end power
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Numbers are good, stock itr block with just a built head.. With the cams dialed in there should be more left in it.
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Originally Posted by ALL M0T0R
Numbers are good, stock itr block with just a built head.. With the cams dialed in there should be more left in it.
yea im hoping to break 205 with a performer x manifold and some skunk2 cam gears
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yea im hoping to break 205 with a performer x manifold and some skunk2 cam gears
You should be able to do that with gears alone.

The tuner 2's will like +3/4 intake and -2/-3 exhaust..those tuner series cams like alot of overlap. You should easily break 205 once the gears can be adjusted.. 0/0 is not opitum for them.
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Originally Posted by 00Red_SiR
must of been having problems with the pickups, common on Dynojets.
last time this happened to me we hooked the pickup to the blue tach signal wire off the distributor instead of the #1 plug wire. a little electrical tape on it and it worked like a charm
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Looks like a good dyno session to me. Are your really going to feel the difference between 199.7 and 205 in the top end? I'm not trying to sound like an ***, but to hell with this dyno number ****.. If it sounds good, behaves well, and it drives like a great engine, what's the big deal?
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my mid-range drops slightly and the picks back up top end. so cam gears wer the blame according to my tuner and the manifold for not being big enough.. manifold was running hot after a few runs. so he suggested a victor x or performer x
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do not use a victorX.... if u already have a itr manifold, its not worth the money to try a performerX.. the ITR manifold is a solid design..
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Originally Posted by eg6 type-R
my mid-range drops slightly and the picks back up top end. so cam gears wer the blame according to my tuner and the manifold for not being big enough.. manifold was running hot after a few runs. so he suggested a victor x or performer x
Interesting. Had never seen that happen, and I run over 200whp on my Type R IM w/ a 68mm TB. (Also sounds like an IM and TB gasket issue). TODA SPEC Bs, TODA valvetrain, and a slight port-match to a B16 head.

I wouldn't do a Victor X, your torque will drop down even more. I'd keep the Type R and at most send it to King Motorsports for "upgrading" like the do their Performer Xs.

As I've mentioned to others, you may want to try an Outlaw Engineering IM and TB Gasket kit. that's easily 6whp right there.

http://www.outlawengineering.com/HondaB16AFrame.html

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Originally Posted by eg6 type-R
ok after finally dyno tuning im not so pleased with the numbers.. 199.7whp on dyno jet

you guys be the judge on this to see if the numbers look ok to you.. here is the build specs

96 spec Jdm ITR block (stock)
LSD ITR tranny with stage 4 clutch
b16a head:
port/polished
supertech valve springs/retainers, flat faced black nitride valves
skunk2 stage 2 (thats wat i was told from a friend, which i still doubt they are)
stock cam gears- my skunk2 i bought used had some chips in the teeth that might of ripped the timing belt.. swapped before the dyno began
3in aem CAI
70mm TB port matched to
stock itr manifold port matched to head (manifold ported 3inches deep into the runners)
440rc injectors
fuel rail/regulator
walbro 255lph fuel pump and new oem fuel filter
hytech replica tri-y header
2 1/2 inch straight piping to exhaust
p28 running on hondata s100


take the dizzy off or the vtec silanoid and look at the end of the cam and let us know what it says.

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Originally Posted by chickenbandit
take the dizzy off or the vtec silanoid and look at the end of the cam and let us know what it says.
Are you saying they are not the cams stated? Seems normal to me with no degrees changes of the cams..
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Originally Posted by slowturbocx
Are you saying they are not the cams stated? Seems normal to me with no degrees changes of the cams..
naw naw naw you said you doubted they where sk2 pro/tuner 2s cams didnt you??
so i was saying just look at the identification number/letters on the end of the cam
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Interesting. Had never seen that happen, and I run over 200whp on my Type R IM w/ a 68mm TB. (Also sounds like an IM and TB gasket issue). TODA SPEC Bs, TODA valvetrain, and a slight port-match to a B16 head.

I wouldn't do a Victor X, your torque will drop down even more. I'd keep the Type R and at most send it to King Motorsports for "upgrading" like the do their Performer Xs.

As I've mentioned to others, you may want to try an Outlaw Engineering IM and TB Gasket kit. that's easily 6whp right there.

http://www.outlawengineering.com/HondaB16AFrame.html

wow thats impressive.. easy gains on some gaskets
i'll definitely look into buying a set
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Originally Posted by chickenbandit
take the dizzy off or the vtec silanoid and look at the end of the cam and let us know what it says.
if i take off the dizzy, what kind of markings am i really gonna look for?
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Originally Posted by eg6 type-R
if i take off the dizzy, what kind of markings am i really gonna look for?
S2 tuner2
Oldskool=H08IN/EX
Newskool=J

Just report back wat u see..that's if u see anything..
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Awesome numbers for what it is...
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awesome. i will check asap and report back with what i see
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Motor sounds solid just needs the cams degreed . In other words your tunner is right and the cams needing degreed. I doubt the intake will make a difference just degree the cams.
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Originally Posted by f20b jones
Motor sounds solid just needs the cams degreed . In other words your tunner is right and the cams needing degreed. I doubt the intake will make a difference just degree the cams.
yes im looking at getting some skunk2 cam gears this weekend.. i can feel the mid-range power droping due to having a stock cam gear. my. hewed up skunk2 gears only made 90base HP.. then he saw the problem on the teeth that they had some chips


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