ABK

I don't think that manufacture of headers should test their header against somebody elses. It's too easy to mess with numbers and if anybody should do this is neutral party.

95skunkedgsr

learn to read why do you think there talking about doin it IMW and with other ppl there to vouch nothing was messed with ,

mikesrex

I don't have a vendetta against you, I just won't put up with your BS trying to discredit my results or tell me my motor is messed up. While you may have done a little of this or that when it comes to building motors or tuning cars, I highly doubt you have as much experience and as good of results as the guy who ported my head, made my intake manifold and tuned my car. If you want to get in an all motor pissing match with my friend, crx=si, then call him out. Otherwise don't continue to tell me my motor is messed up or that I don't know what I am talking about. I posted legit dyno results showing an OEM ITR header beating your fake RMF header on the whole powerband. If you want to post other legit results, do it. So far the dyno comparisons you have posted are useless and do not contain enough information to adequately compare headers. My suggestion to you is to leave me alone, and start doing legit research and testing on your products.

95skunkedgsr

lol your in his thread and tellin him to leave you alone i dont get how that works but ok

4g hatch

i would like to see the jg/edelbrock header with modded collector,and a type r 4-1.

0VtecKiDD

Your opinion, which IMO is wrong, ive been doing this for 10 years, you did one test compared to my HUNDREDS. You have no idea how to read a dyno graph or how to understand the way i do my testing (IMO because you cant comprehend how my tests and my CUSTOMERS tests are accurate).

youre pissed , plain and simple, for no reason. Sorry you didnt make any power, quit crying about it. I gave you my professional answer, that was you have something else wrong in your setup, and if IM WRONG i would be happy to test it myself.

I have NEVER lied and i have NEVER skewed results so i take it personally when you try to act like a keyboard commando and insinuate that im just out to make a buck.

How can i leave you alone when you follow me around in MY THREADS?

Either send me your header and take my offer, OR SHUT UP. Seriously i hate to be so rude but you give me no choice being nice gets me nowhere with you.

BACK ON TOPIC

0VtecKiDD

I learned a lot the first time i did something like this. I will be much better this time around.

I will have people there that will vouch for the test and i will post A/F plots and screenshots of the tuning tables and the air temps etc. you cant fudge with numbers like that.

I think Black_R and Chunky will swing by as well as some other HT members that have already PMed me.

Im looking into flights into PA depending on the price we may be able to work that out

neverstop

this is AWESOME and exactly the reason I signed up for this site. thanks for doing this! and I'm happy to donate a few bucks too

negusjuda

mikesrex you can always just get a diffrent header and test it against your itr header and if it produce the same results then either a. there is something in your setup holding you back or b. the rmf header just didnt make more power then your itr header no reason to get mad and bash people if you dont like the header then sell it simple as that. im sure you can sell the header as there are plenty of people who will buy it from you

Furyof4

I know where there's one under a bench collecting dust. If Vteckidd wants it to test Im sure I can supply it.

I can supply the Edelbrock for sure, possibly a 4-1 too.

0VtecKiDD

i think the edelbrock gets overlooked alot, ive heard with the collector mod it does VERY well

mikesrex

I've already explained myself enough. Obviously you don't get it, but you want to try to appear to be "right" so you can sell more products. That's fine, but it's not TECHNICAL info you are posting.

already did. The ITR header made a lot more power than the stock B16A header and carried the powerband a lot farther out. I would suspect Vteckidd would have already offered to buy it back from me instead of telling me I don't know what I'm doing. Since he wants to insult me, I will perform some more tests with his header vs. the stock ITR vs. a real header when I have some time.

dirtyharryhatch

funny thing, my friends b20v with just pistons cams intake manifold E85 and hytech replica headers made 230. that header made more power than his old ITR header.

Natural Aspirations

Have heades will travel....

Actually its prrety close for me!

killerpenguin21

as soon as i get an exhaust put together, ill be in with a kidd header to compare last years results with an anr

C_Rock77

The test that DonF did shows a good comparison between the Narrow and the Skunk2 on a similar build (2.0L, Pro2s), but it was running ITBs. The Skunk2 beat it pretty handily. As well it should've, being around twice the price.

Mike, what's the roll call going to be like on this header test?

GagnarTheUnruly

iTrader: (3)

I'll cast another vote for 2.5" Edelbrock.

Teamdiesel

The test that DonF did showed nothing but a picture of a computer screen with three scribbled lines. The Hytech replica beat the Skunk header in a test that I did on my 2.1 liter GSR.

0VtecKiDD

are you done now? Are do you want to beat this horse even more?
I did offer to buy it back and reimburse you for your tuning, YOU DECLINED

Go make your own thread quit ****ing with mine

0VtecKiDD

So far

Skunk2 Mega Power
KiddRACING
Hytech Big Tube
DC JDM 4-1

Still looking for a BISI and a SMSP "Style" header

MikeySpec

ABK

yea you can. You can change correction on the dyno. You can also change corrections on ignition retard depending on ect and iat. But even if you didn't why should we believe you? There is alot more you can mess with to fudge the numbers (anybody that has tuned a car will tell you that). This should be done by neutral party, but even so all this over a header that could possibly make 3hp more then the other header. BIG DEAL.

And on your last so called "header test" didn't turn out so good so maybe you should just drop this whole thing while you are still ahead.

Natural Aspirations

You Got PM

mikesrex

paypal me and I will ship it back to you.

0VtecKiDD

whoops my fault i missed that i will add you to the list an let you know ETA

Do you need a header to borrow while i have this one?