170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
01-14-2014, 08:10 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
Look at the second valve pic, half is ported, half isn't, look at the dimples still there on the seat. I believe people underrate a very good valvejob / porting job.. at least cleaning up. The setup is strong and for whats done, it makes good power and can make a good bit more with some TLC.
Hey derek, You do know this is an ITR head right? I mentioned that in the first post so that is why it looks half ported. That's called bowl blending and they come stock like that.
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01-14-2014, 08:20 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtect
here is a link of me messing around with a friend's 330whp turbo integra
another link of me and the tuner dialing in the car
another link of me and the tuner dialing in the car
01-14-2014, 09:44 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
I don't think ddtech was "attacking" the op just trying to help him figure out ways to better his build, I've talked to Derek before on phone and he was nothing but helpful even when I brought up rockets cams but to the OP my build should support the cams it's taken me almost a year and half to get all quality parts for it and my cylinder head is a 4piston head so I'd say it flows well lol,
01-14-2014, 11:24 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
[QUOTE=93egSLEEPER;49441656]I hope all the omni tachs work better than yours...[/QUOTE
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01-15-2014, 04:41 AM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
I don't think ddtech was "attacking" the op just trying to help him figure out ways to better his build, I've talked to Derek before on phone and he was nothing but helpful even when I brought up rockets cams but to the OP my build should support the cams it's taken me almost a year and half to get all quality parts for it and my cylinder head is a 4piston head so I'd say it flows well lol,
I wasnt attacking. I could honestly give TWO *****, what cams anyone runs. Rocket, SVM, DDTECH,WEB,SKUNK, ****Rolls, TAMPons i dont care.. it has nothing to do with any of my responses.
I didn't see ITR, but i know what the ports look like, i saw pr3, thought it was a regular b16, doesn't matter in any sense, because either way, it still doesn't flow what it needs to for this setup.
Stock manifold basically, not ported or anything, smaller header, dinky intake, know what its doing? Creating a resonance in the intake. Thats why you have a torque hump thats so pronounced. I was simply not only saying the setup is good, so far for what it is, but it does need work to properly make the power.
Your videos , show nothing, you dont "out" torque anything, that 60 roll you get trololololed in basically 1 gear. If i wanted to take a stab at something i would have already, but thats clearly not the issue or what i'm trying to do. I came in, with the intention on helping you make more power and carry it longer. Its obvious you think i have an underlining meaning. Take away what you want, believe, me, i wont lose sleep over it.
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01-15-2014, 11:50 AM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
What dyno was this done on, because id congratulate you on making the most torque ever in the history of honda tuning on a generic NA b20b setup with a stock bore and stroke. What exactly were your torque numbers without smoothing, since you said they are higher, and im also curious what you mean by "out torquing" turbo car's, but not numerically of course. That kinda seems like a contradiction, but don't quote me on that.
What I meant by out torquing is that integra I ran against both ran from 60 mph in 4th gear and i passed him until he hit boost and he passed me and I wasn't even on high cam yet. Numerically(dyno papers) he makes more tq than me.
01-15-2014, 12:38 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
We both were in 4th gear at 60 mph and i pulled him until he hit boost, then he eventually passed me. He didn't spin in fourth gear at all, so at that point driving skill is irrelevant because we both left at the same time.
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
[QUOTE=Spawne32;49443363]So then how did you out torque him if you dont make anywhere close to the amount of torque that he makes, I dont understand that.[/QUOTE
Maybe because his peak torque is at the top of his powerband and he has to spool his turbo to get to his peak torque. Turbo hondas don't have a linear tq curve like all motor Hondas.
Maybe because his peak torque is at the top of his powerband and he has to spool his turbo to get to his peak torque. Turbo hondas don't have a linear tq curve like all motor Hondas.
01-15-2014, 07:56 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
[QUOTE=HAMSTERHONDA;49444311]What does this car trap? And weight?[/QUOTE
havent ran it yet man, its a full interior 1993 civic Si so around 2400 with no people.
havent ran it yet man, its a full interior 1993 civic Si so around 2400 with no people.
01-15-2014, 08:00 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
GOT AN UPDATE! This is with new injectors and lil more timing
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01-15-2014, 09:34 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
Got some new videos as well
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8o5eu1iis4...115_195925.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8aos6jfsao...115_200108.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8o5eu1iis4...115_195925.mp4
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8aos6jfsao...115_200108.mp4
01-15-2014, 09:47 PM
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Re: 170 wtq with rocket motorsports cams, low budget built b20 vtec
No worries. I think he got a tranny from you and maybe some other small stuff. It was late
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