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Old 05-31-2009, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by omniman

tell your friend to change the switch on the tach from 2 cyl to 4 cyl
Hahahahahahahaha
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$7000.....LOL, he could of at least complimented his lie with saying he invested $50K into the engine.then that lie would've made more sense. how small of a stroke you would need to achieve 14k rpm with a b16?
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A stroke short enough to turn it into a 160cc engine.
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A stroke short enough to turn it into a 160cc engine.
lol... yeah i know. talk about a screamer, it would be a sound for sore ears
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Originally Posted by BigBlock22
how small of a stroke you would need to achieve 14k rpm with a b16?
A 70.6mm stroke with 138mm rod would put it exactly at F1 forces@19K. You'd need to use F1 design and materials to make it work(obviously expensive). With stock bore it would be 1.45l, bored to a max of 87mm it would be 1.68l. If it were built right, I would venture to predict a minimum of 230hp per liter at that rpm, which would make the 1.68l produce 386.4bhp.
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A 70.6mm stroke with 138mm rod would put it exactly at F1 forces@19K. You'd need to use F1 design and materials to make it work(obviously expensive). With stock bore it would be 1.45l, bored to a max of 87mm it would be 1.68l. If it were built right, I would venture to predict a minimum of 230hp per liter at that rpm, which would make the 1.68l produce 386.4bhp.
Not gonna happen.
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Ofcourse noone would spend that much on a B...
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Originally Posted by Kyle is raaddd
Haha I can't believe that you would even post this.

Although I hate arguing with people when they think they're right when they're really wrong.
This kid that goes to my school said he's sponsered by Monster (energy drinks) for wakeskating. Bull ****. I just nod and smile.
what are you tryin to say? that kid dont have to right to 14k monster drinks while wake skating? sponsor come in all shape and sizes ... it could be free drinks... or a free race car... its still a sponsor
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[QUOTE=Vengeance;38737925]A 70.6mm stroke with 138mm rod would put it exactly at F1 forces@19K. You'd need to use F1 design and materials to make it work(obviously expensive). With stock bore it would be 1.45l, bored to a max of 87mm it would be 1.68l. If it were built right, I would venture to predict a minimum of 230hp per liter at that rpm, which would make the 1.68l produce 386.4bhp.[/QUO

....and it wouldnt have **** for torque. i didnt realize you guys were really gonna answer that question
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Yeah 386.4 bhp and 200 inch/pounds tq.
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Originally Posted by BigBlock22
....and it wouldnt have **** for torque.
So? If it's destroked and revs to 14k, I somehow doubt that streetability is a concern...
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a b16 has **** for torque no matter how you look at it lol
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Originally Posted by BigBlock22
....and it wouldnt have **** for torque. i didnt realize you guys were really gonna answer that question
Originally Posted by 1.5Slowmatic
a b16 has **** for torque no matter how you look at it lol
Actually when you have a choice of custom gearing, then all that matters is HP. I'll use a drag racing scenario as an example. We all agree that a certain HP is capable of a certain trap speed, right? From there you can back calculate what you'd need each gear ratio to be to reach a certain mph in that gear. We'll use a trap speed of 140mph, HP of 385, and a first gear to 60mph. The other gears are redundant for proving the point, and will show the same trend.
(I have to use a damn image because this board takes out the spaces)



As you can see, no matter where in the rpm you make the HP, if you gear it properly it will have the same torque value to the wheels...so all that really matters is horsepower!
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Why is this still alive...
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Originally Posted by BigBlock22
....and it wouldnt have **** for torque. i didnt realize you guys were really gonna answer that question
Thats what the torque multiplying device is for! It would be fast with the right box. For that kind of rpm, you would do better with a 60mm stroke and a very, very good head.

This thread is like myth busters, myth busted, now what will it take to confirm it.
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
and thats why next to no one bothers reading this forum anymore.
exactly why i come here once every 3 months to see if anything changes
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... without the tranny the damn thing wouldnt make decent torque until after 8k

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Originally Posted by BigBlock22
...oh hell, here we go again with special gearing. besides cost, the damn thing wouldnt have much torque until it was past 8k rpm no matter what tranny you had and you probably wouldnt want to use it in a car that weighed any more than 1500 lbs.
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So? If it's destroked and revs to 14k, I somehow doubt that streetability is a concern...
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And that's why F1 is not popular in America. 1000hp and 20K rpms but no flywheel torque.
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And that's why F1 is not popular in America. 1000hp and 20K rpms but no flywheel torque.
exactly what im talking about. its useless. stick with a conventional RS ratio
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Originally Posted by Master of the Universe
And that's why F1 is not popular in America. 1000hp and 20K rpms but no flywheel torque.
so youre insinuating that the average nascar fan cares about how much tq the cars make?

no.

the reason F1 isnt popular is:
1. its not as spectator friendly as oval racing
2. the competition isnt as exciting to your average mouth breather. alonso leading from pole to checkers at monaco with kimi in tow doesnt excite a redneck like jimmy johnson and kyle busch banging fenders for all 500 laps

its got nothing to do with the automotive platform. never has, never will. if you switched every single nascar motor to a dual cam fuel injected v8, there would be no IMMEDIATE affect on fanfare and spectator count, and the only related affect would take place when the prices skyrocketed, sponsors/teams pulled out, and the competition loosened.

there WAS a twin overhead cam motor in Top Fuel drag racing, if you emember. i believe it was the mcgee brothers who came up with it, with a poor budget, and the nhra didnt care, but when bernstein made it public he would fund it, it got the axe for the above reason.

the almighty dollar has stifled every form of racing sanction there is.
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F1 isnt popular in America cuz dem NASCAR boyz in da south don't like no Eureepeeans comin over n racin there little sissy carz.

The majority of the NASCAR watching public is very ignorant/biased against anything non-U.S.
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How the hell did this thread end up here?
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lol makes me thing of talledega nights haha
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Originally Posted by silly nanny24
...cryofrozen for a couple months...
Bahaha.


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