SiR99

the average person doesnt own an itr, its usually the people who are really into the car, and people who know about it know that its really a Honda with the Acura name it sell it.

gs-R_swap

they all come from honda so who cares if its rice

92TypeR

I went as far as swapping out my 'H' centercaps on my JDM 16's to the 'A' centercaps from the stockers...

Doesn't make sense to spend money 'rebadging' to "Honda".

IMHO, if you care that much about what the badge says, you are owning the car for the wrong reasons.

variable

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Anyone ever pop their hood and look at their valve cover or manufacturer decal? I really dont see why anyone would have an issue with someone putting a Honda emblem on a Honda...

Todd00

If you haven't noticed, there are a lot of rebranded items in the automotive world. There are a lot of rebranded items, period.

Obviously this is done to distinguish one product from another. But still, the car was sold as an Acura in the USA and it has specific features to North America that no one else in the world got.

If you had a Pontiac would you debadge it and put GM decals on it? What about a Corvette? Would you put VW badges on your Audi? What about your Porsche?

Seems rather silly, doesn't it?

variable

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Different....An Audi A4 is an Audi A4, not a VW Jetta...A Pontiac Sunfire is a Sunfire, not a Chevy Cavelier...on the other hand, an Acura integra is...well a Honda integra with a different badge on it. If Audi actually sold a Jetta with an Audi badge, you might have a point. And I have no idea how A corvette has anything to do with the point you are trying to make

92TypeR

I consider the "H" badge just as silly as putting faux JDM License Plates on the car. Although the import crowd stole that from the VW Stunna's...

Todd00

You better check again on those items you are saying aren't alike. The Sunbird and the Cavalier was the *exact* same chassis. Differences were interior, seats, misc body panels, ground effects......

Hey--sounds like the difference between a USDM Integra and a JDM Integra, does it not?

Audi shares chassis with VW. Mazda shares chassis with Volvo. Pontiac shared chassis with Chevrolet. Chrysler chared a chassis with Mercedes. See where this is going?

You're close, but not really. A Jetta is an Audi A3 is a Jetta. Look it up.

The Passat was the same as the A4 at one point in time.

touge

Euro ITR's look almost the exact same as Acura ITR's but they have Honda badges. Every DC2 was built at the Honda Suzuka plant, Japan anyway.

PaulMc

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This thread sucks.

92hatch!

Chard

Agreed. How is this thread still around? The op's question could have been answered with one post.

I think we can all agree the Honda Motor Co. marketing department is "ricey" because it re-badged a Honda Integra and called it an Acura Integra. Not to mention all the other ricey car manufacturers mentioned.

PaulMc

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It's still around because every idiot on Honda-Tech is in here trying to justify there opinion on why an H badge on an Acura gives it 50whp more.

soulassassin13

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I think someone needs to remove the stick from their butt and just say live and let live. You can give whatever reason for swapping badges, but in the end it is whatever makes the owner happy. As for myself, I love the JDM front end. It makes it look like a member of the Honda family and not like some Honda engineer was spying at the Toyota plant, looking at plans for the Celica that was released 4 months earlier.

Why would anyone want a true JDM Integra anyways? So you can impress your friends with your JdMTiZZiteshiTzYO!? If you love paying tariffs on a 10 year old car, reaching over your passenger seat to go through toll booths, drive throughs, and checkpoints, looking like you should be delivering my mail... go right ahead, if it is your cup of tea.

Be it real, fake, original, rebadged, recovered, what have you. Why not just enjoy the car for what it is. The greatest FF production car possibly ever produced. Get over yourselves. If I wanted to hear this elitist crap I would have joined an Audi forum.

bluebomber

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I personally think the red H badges look great on Integras, whether they are CDM, ADM, EUDM, JDM or USDM. Acura is Honda. Honda is Acura. It's not like you're putting a Ferrari logo on your car. I think the badges are just one more option you've got and both of them look nice.

And to all the people complaining about "rice" on someone's car: is there anything JDM on your USDM car? Because if there is, according to your own definition, you are ricing out your car. Just do what you like to your car and stop caring if other people don't like it. It's not that big of a deal.

PaulMc

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Honda produced the car in two different frontend styles, so no matter what stock front end you have, it's still a member of the "Honda family", even if it sold by Acura.

Why would anyone want a true JDM Integra anyways? Because it actually handles a hell of a lot better then the USDM ITR. I own a USDM and would never own a JDM because of your reasons listed, but stock vs. stock, the JDM ITR is a better performance car over the USDM ITR.

soulassassin13

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What you are forgetting to state is the "round eye" was released in 1993 for all markets (including JDM), the modular light setup wasn't released until 1995 after the eastern markets blatantly rejected the round eye.

Yes, I agree it is true that a "true JDM" ITR handles better than the US Spec with the factory set variables, but the car/engine was originally set and corner weighted for a driver sitting on the right side and having an average weight of 136.7lbs (I weigh 210lbs). Now I highly doubt that even 15 percent of respondents to this forum weigh within 5 pounds of 137lbs. Now with my minuscule 4-years of track experience I have learned something. Anyone who has modified their suspension (including preload) setup should get their car corner weighted for themselves to "re-balance" the car.

Little_Nolan

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I 100% agree.


As I stated b4 its because ppl are ghey JDM fan boi's, and for some reason they think their Acura is actually a honda... NO! if you are buying a N.A. sold integra you now own an ACURA. It is specifically an Acura integra not a Honda integra, it varies in many ways which makes it specifically an Acura NOT a Honda. this topic is just dumb

Little_Nolan

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I have owned both including a RHD 4dr ITR... I enjoyed the LHD version much more (not sure why) I felt no noticable difference between LHD and RHD in handling/ feeling of vehicle. They are essentially identicle vehicles minus the aspect of where the driver sits in the car and I feel the weight placement of driver will have vertually ZERO impact of how the car feels or drives.. my 02 honestly

Todd00

Just because you slap a JDM front end on your car does not mean that you now own a Honda Integra. Not that I care, but I'm just pointing that out. Again, make yourself happy, but don't get all butthurt when folks critizise your mods.

I agree. A true RHD JDM car is just dumb in north america.

You mean a VW forum? An Audi is a VW, after all. You think they rebadge their cars as such?

Todd00

And a Pontiac is a Chevrolet is a GMC. A VW is a Porsche is an Audi. What's your point? We've already discussed the amount of chassis that get rebadged.

The Integra was sold in North America, with a specific combination of features no one else in the world got, as an Acura. Therefore, it is an Acura, regardless of who the parent company is.

100% Wrong. Some JDM parts add performance or are better than the USDM parts. For instance--the JDM 4-1 Header. It produces more HP and is somewhat lighter than the USDM manifold. How is this rice? Answer: It isn't.

Do badges add HP or do anything significant for the car? No. Do they do something that is intended to make a car more of a showpiece or look better to the owner? Yes. Do badges appear to turn the car into something that it is not? Yes.

You tell me what the definition of the above is...

uNF$@#!

I puts a honda badge on mine, because the ricer retards love ganking the red Acura ones.

soulassassin13

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I agree with this. The Title and Registration say Acura. I call her an Acura when I order parts. It is the same deal with everyone now hunting EDM front bumpers, rear bumper fog/brake lights... this will pass too and it doesn't make their car anything, but what it is labeled as an Acura. I love my car and everything I have done to it, so I have no need to defend myself or my decisions. Some days I back my car out the garage and it takes me 3 hours to wash it in near freezing weather (an hour is dedicated to just looking after shes all clean). Out of all my friends I am the only one I know that checks my tire pressure and fluid levels before I leave the garage, just for the simple fact I want to get as close to the same experience every time I drive. Call it compulsive if you want, but I am enamored by car and everything about it.

gpmillerjax

LOL

YellowKahuna