TYPE R OEM vs AFTERMARKET suspension
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TYPE R OEM vs AFTERMARKET suspension
I just picked up a type r with form and function type 2 coil over. Have them set pretty high and on softest setting and they just suck on the road. Way too stiff and bouncy to be enjoyable.
Is the stock ITR suspension pretty good for mountain roads and street? My car will be driven a lot in traffic and taken out on weekends for fun on back roads
Is the stock ITR suspension pretty good for mountain roads and street? My car will be driven a lot in traffic and taken out on weekends for fun on back roads
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Yes stocks are very good on this car. Only reason I'm not running the stocks instead of my Tanabe coilovers is because I wanted the car a little lower.
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Another +1 for the stock springs. They're plenty good for street and light Autocross use. I'd suggest pairing them with some Koni or Bilsteins and (depending on driver familiarity with loose FWD'ers) a larger rear bar. The other option would be a jump to a high end shock (MCS, Moton, JRZ, Penske, JRi, etc) as they have spectacular street manners. Often times the issue with JDM y0!!!1 shock brands is way the hell too much high speed compression. A decent shock package will allow you to run higher rates while providing a better ride as well.
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In this case, you are the prime candidate for a set of OEM ITR shocks and springs. Just remember, like any other "progressive" springs, the ITR progrssive springs are designed for the ITR stock weight. If you light weight it to a good amount, the ITR springs will create an off road look fender gap and your caR will corner like a carriage. LOL
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stock springs are best for street. If you want lower then maybe stock springs + koni shocks on the lower perch.
I had eibach multipro prior and they actually had good street manners. I feel the other shocks have too little compression for the street on lowered cars.
I had eibach multipro prior and they actually had good street manners. I feel the other shocks have too little compression for the street on lowered cars.
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I would be very interested. How much, mileage and location?
Thank you all for the feedback. I dont plan on stripping out the car so it sounds like weight wont be a concern.
I also dont really want to lower the car much. I havent seen a stock ITR in ages but on the highest setting on these coilovers the car is so low. My wife will occasionally drive it and the front lip has already seen love because of it.
Thank you all for the feedback. I dont plan on stripping out the car so it sounds like weight wont be a concern.
I also dont really want to lower the car much. I havent seen a stock ITR in ages but on the highest setting on these coilovers the car is so low. My wife will occasionally drive it and the front lip has already seen love because of it.
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F&F Type 2 coilovers are like $850 shipped. They are not the cheapest of the cheap, but they are pretty darn close.
OEM springs on koni yellows (on the bottom perch) should give you what you are looking for.
Sell your F&F's on craigslist for like $300 and make some ricer's day and recoup some cash.
OEM springs on koni yellows (on the bottom perch) should give you what you are looking for.
Sell your F&F's on craigslist for like $300 and make some ricer's day and recoup some cash.
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F&Fs are another Bor Chaun branded coilover like megan, ksport, etc, seems popular with the stance kids...
I'm happy for the most part with how the OEM ITR shocks perform with bilstein sports, I'd say I can probably leave this set up on my car for a long time with a set of good tires as long as I dont get the moar low bug lol.
I'm happy for the most part with how the OEM ITR shocks perform with bilstein sports, I'd say I can probably leave this set up on my car for a long time with a set of good tires as long as I dont get the moar low bug lol.
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+1 for Koni yellows and OEM ITR springs. Very minor ride height drop and great street mannerisms for sharp bumps. If you aren't prepared to spend some serious $$$ on high end coilovers then this is your best bet. Like Todd00 said, sell the F&F on CL and recoup some bread.
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I thought my OEM suspension was quite good until I hit the autocross track, where the car's body roll was literally like a pirate ship.
Went aftermarket for buddy club RSD afterwards. Yes, they're a lot stiffer even at the softest settings, but guess there are compromises to be made...
Went aftermarket for buddy club RSD afterwards. Yes, they're a lot stiffer even at the softest settings, but guess there are compromises to be made...
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what was the mileage on the oem suspension, I put on higher mileage itr shocks and it was horrible for autox, but taught me a lot with the slow reactions the worn shocks were giving me, changing the shocks made the biggest difference, while retraining the stock springs and sway bars.
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I'd also be suspect of worn out or compacted OE bumpstops. The ones on my 97 were toast by ~70k miles. The result was a ton of pitch and roll... The swap to higher rate bumpstops and revalved Bilsteins transformed the car.
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I'd say probably around 80k to 100k depending how they were driven maybe more if they arent tracked and you live in an area with good roads. The set of shocks I bought came with H&R lowering springs so Im assuming they probably wore the shocks out even more.
Mine drove fine on the street, taking it to autox was when the issues became more apparent that something wasn't right. Some higher speed sweepers I'd completely lose control of the car when I lifted, it was sudden and not fun.
The best thing you can do is have fresh bushings all around and new shocks/bumpstops.
Mine drove fine on the street, taking it to autox was when the issues became more apparent that something wasn't right. Some higher speed sweepers I'd completely lose control of the car when I lifted, it was sudden and not fun.
The best thing you can do is have fresh bushings all around and new shocks/bumpstops.
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I think Im going to go with used set of OEM setup and refresh any bushings that look ill. The car doesnt currently have any existing stock suspension. All were removed with ff coilover instal including rear lower control arms. I will need to have the springs, hats, pillow mounts etc.
Once the shocks wear out I think the Konis should work. I will be doing very little autox. Just mainly freeway/street and occasional mountain road rampage.
Thanks all for your help and guidance!
Once the shocks wear out I think the Konis should work. I will be doing very little autox. Just mainly freeway/street and occasional mountain road rampage.
Thanks all for your help and guidance!
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I just installed koni yellow and Tein.H springs ;I think I got the best of both worlds...
Well koni yellow are A+ (middle perch) Tein.H really mild drop + slightly stiffer spring rate but not by much !
Well koni yellow are A+ (middle perch) Tein.H really mild drop + slightly stiffer spring rate but not by much !
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I think I actually prefer the OEM shocks compared to the Koni Yellow's with stock springs, for street driving anyways. Autocross and track use the Koni's are fine, but daily driving I've been fairly disappointed.
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I currently ride on Bilstiens with GC sleeves/springs. To me it is way too bouncy for daily street driving.
I just picked up a set of Koni Yellow Sports and going to use the Koni Yellow/Ground Control setup. With them being adjustable, Im sure ill be able to find a comfortable setting.
In the Yellow girl, I have Ohlins DFV suspension. That is insanely responsive. Ride is fantastic. Holds and devours turns. I havent even messed with the tons of adjustments yet but it really is a amazing how well it performs.
I just picked up a set of Koni Yellow Sports and going to use the Koni Yellow/Ground Control setup. With them being adjustable, Im sure ill be able to find a comfortable setting.
In the Yellow girl, I have Ohlins DFV suspension. That is insanely responsive. Ride is fantastic. Holds and devours turns. I havent even messed with the tons of adjustments yet but it really is a amazing how well it performs.
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For the Bilsteins, I thought they were super comfy with ITR springs. What rates are you running? Also, do you have enough bump travel to keep it off the bumpstops?
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I currently ride on Bilstiens with GC sleeves/springs. To me it is way too bouncy for daily street driving.
I just picked up a set of Koni Yellow Sports and going to use the Koni Yellow/Ground Control setup. With them being adjustable, Im sure ill be able to find a comfortable setting.
In the Yellow girl, I have Ohlins DFV suspension. That is insanely responsive. Ride is fantastic. Holds and devours turns. I havent even messed with the tons of adjustments yet but it really is a amazing how well it performs.
I just picked up a set of Koni Yellow Sports and going to use the Koni Yellow/Ground Control setup. With them being adjustable, Im sure ill be able to find a comfortable setting.
In the Yellow girl, I have Ohlins DFV suspension. That is insanely responsive. Ride is fantastic. Holds and devours turns. I havent even messed with the tons of adjustments yet but it really is a amazing how well it performs.
If I could find the Bilsteins and stockers cheap enough Id jump on it but I can't even find stock springs and perches...
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Part way down the page... $200 for stock shocks/springs.
Part way down the page... $200 for stock shocks/springs.
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UPDATE: Bought stock ITR shock/spring setup. I will let you all know my thoughts when I get them installed. I can't wait to get this garbage Form & Function off...
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Can you explain why you were disappointed in the streets?