poor mans type r??
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a poor man's type-r engine is a P72 block (gs-r block, but also same block that type-r is), a PR3 head (b16 head, same as type-r), high compression pistons, type-r cams, etc...
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Whatever it is, it doesn't belong in this forum...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShadyEH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a poor man's type-r engine is a P72 block (gs-r block, but also same block that type-r is), a PR3 head (b16 head, same as type-r), high compression pistons, type-r cams, etc...
and for future question's like this one, don't make a post about it on h-t, just ask your friend who is talkin about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
first off, there's is no such thing as a p72 block true the GSR block (b18c1) and the type R block (b18c5) are the same casting. And the b16 head is not the same as the type R, there are plenty of difference in the two.
And to answer the original question. A poor mans type R is any non-vtec block with a v-tec head on it.
non-vtec engines...
b18a
b18b
b20
slap a v-tec head on one of those engines from a GSR (b18c1) , Type R (b18c5), or an Si (b16) and you got your self a "poor mans type R" or as most people call it an ls/vtec setup, which is not a good idea unless you know what your doing.
so for future reference, don't post unless you got an answer to the original posters question, just save yourself the trouble and push the back button on your browser.
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first off, there's is no such thing as a p72 block true the GSR block (b18c1) and the type R block (b18c5) are the same casting. And the b16 head is not the same as the type R, there are plenty of difference in the two.
And to answer the original question. A poor mans type R is any non-vtec block with a v-tec head on it.
non-vtec engines...
b18a
b18b
b20
slap a v-tec head on one of those engines from a GSR (b18c1) , Type R (b18c5), or an Si (b16) and you got your self a "poor mans type R" or as most people call it an ls/vtec setup, which is not a good idea unless you know what your doing.
so for future reference, don't post unless you got an answer to the original posters question, just save yourself the trouble and push the back button on your browser.
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beavis you are wrong bud. a poor mans type R is a gsr block with a b16 head and itr pistons and cams...
the rod/stroke ratio or a b20/b18 non vtec block is way different than that of a gsr/type R.. so therefore there are no similarities between those b20 - ls/vtec combos and a TYPE R.. don't act so smart because you obviously don't know what your talking about.. they call it a poor man's type R because that setup shares very similar numbers and with some port work and springs/retainers and cams the B16 head can be made the same as the type R head. and the type R has the same block basically as the gsr other than the pistons which when you change them to type R you will ahve yourself a type R motor for half the price ... which brings the name ' poor man's type R' to make alot of sense...
the rod/stroke ratio or a b20/b18 non vtec block is way different than that of a gsr/type R.. so therefore there are no similarities between those b20 - ls/vtec combos and a TYPE R.. don't act so smart because you obviously don't know what your talking about.. they call it a poor man's type R because that setup shares very similar numbers and with some port work and springs/retainers and cams the B16 head can be made the same as the type R head. and the type R has the same block basically as the gsr other than the pistons which when you change them to type R you will ahve yourself a type R motor for half the price ... which brings the name ' poor man's type R' to make alot of sense...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow91crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">beavis you are wrong bud. a poor mans type R is a gsr block with a b16 head and itr pistons and cams...
the rod/stroke ratio or a b20/b18 non vtec block is way different than that of a gsr/type R.. so therefore there are no similarities between those b20 - ls/vtec combos and a TYPE R.. don't act so smart because you obviously don't know what your talking about.. they call it a poor man's type R because that setup shares very similar numbers and with some port work and springs/retainers and cams the B16 head can be made the same as the type R head. and the type R has the same block basically as the gsr other than the pistons which when you change them to type R you will ahve yourself a type R motor for half the price ... which brings the name ' poor man's type R' to make alot of sense...</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep...what he said.
the rod/stroke ratio or a b20/b18 non vtec block is way different than that of a gsr/type R.. so therefore there are no similarities between those b20 - ls/vtec combos and a TYPE R.. don't act so smart because you obviously don't know what your talking about.. they call it a poor man's type R because that setup shares very similar numbers and with some port work and springs/retainers and cams the B16 head can be made the same as the type R head. and the type R has the same block basically as the gsr other than the pistons which when you change them to type R you will ahve yourself a type R motor for half the price ... which brings the name ' poor man's type R' to make alot of sense...</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep...what he said.
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Re: (Beavis)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Beavis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
an ls/vtec setup, which is not a good idea unless you know what your doing.
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shut up beavis. theres good to it, its called stroke and if you do b20 its called bore and stroke
i said stroke
an ls/vtec setup, which is not a good idea unless you know what your doing.
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shut up beavis. theres good to it, its called stroke and if you do b20 its called bore and stroke
i said stroke
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slow91crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">beavis you are wrong bud. a poor mans type R is a gsr block with a b16 head and itr pistons and cams...
the rod/stroke ratio or a b20/b18 non vtec block is way different than that of a gsr/type R.. so therefore there are no similarities between those b20 - ls/vtec combos and a TYPE R.. don't act so smart because you obviously don't know what your talking about.. they call it a poor man's type R because that setup shares very similar numbers and with some port work and springs/retainers and cams the B16 head can be made the same as the type R head. and the type R has the same block basically as the gsr other than the pistons which when you change them to type R you will ahve yourself a type R motor for half the price ... which brings the name ' poor man's type R' to make alot of sense...</TD></TR></TABLE>
beavis your a butthead
the rod/stroke ratio or a b20/b18 non vtec block is way different than that of a gsr/type R.. so therefore there are no similarities between those b20 - ls/vtec combos and a TYPE R.. don't act so smart because you obviously don't know what your talking about.. they call it a poor man's type R because that setup shares very similar numbers and with some port work and springs/retainers and cams the B16 head can be made the same as the type R head. and the type R has the same block basically as the gsr other than the pistons which when you change them to type R you will ahve yourself a type R motor for half the price ... which brings the name ' poor man's type R' to make alot of sense...</TD></TR></TABLE>
beavis your a butthead
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Re: (slow91crx)
I've got a very simple setup I consider "poor man's type r"
GSR block
P30 pistons
GSR head
ITR valvetrain
'01 ITR cams
Put down 178whp and 130tq at 92-degree ambient temp and 70% humidity
GSR block
P30 pistons
GSR head
ITR valvetrain
'01 ITR cams
Put down 178whp and 130tq at 92-degree ambient temp and 70% humidity
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Re: poor mans type r?? (bus stop)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bus stop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think poor man type-r is any honda with the OEM TYPE-R sticker </TD></TR></TABLE>
I beat a civic up a hill on the parkway in my Yukon today, does that count as a "poor mans Type R"?
I beat a civic up a hill on the parkway in my Yukon today, does that count as a "poor mans Type R"?
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Re: poor mans type r?? (m R g S r)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are a few different ways of doing poor mans...</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea evan, i thinkim gonna go this route instead of boost
yea evan, i thinkim gonna go this route instead of boost
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Re: (Brewer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brewer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've got a very simple setup I consider "poor man's type r"
GSR block
P30 pistons
GSR head
ITR valvetrain
'01 ITR cams
Put down 178whp and 130tq at 92-degree ambient temp and 70% humidity </TD></TR></TABLE>
^--- i built and tuned that engine
i wish i had seen beavis's reply to my post. i would have made him cry like a little biatch.... damn what a shitload of misinformation.
"theres no such thing as a P72 block" then why the f-uck is P72 stamped into gs-r and type-r blocks?? also stamped onto gs-r heads, gs-r/type-r oil pans, etc..... ****** retard.
damn that pisses me off. "don't post unless you know what you are talkin about"
man, if you knew me... damn.... aghhh.... i've built and tuned a shitload of honda engines, in all different combinations, made awesome power on all of them. there's probably not a thing you could teach me about them. i'm sorry to sound stuck up or something like that, because i'm not, but damn. i'm glad your *** got stallowned. go put your misinformation back into your *** where it came from and sign back onto clubsi.com. ****** ricer
now i need a beer
GSR block
P30 pistons
GSR head
ITR valvetrain
'01 ITR cams
Put down 178whp and 130tq at 92-degree ambient temp and 70% humidity </TD></TR></TABLE>
^--- i built and tuned that engine
i wish i had seen beavis's reply to my post. i would have made him cry like a little biatch.... damn what a shitload of misinformation.
"theres no such thing as a P72 block" then why the f-uck is P72 stamped into gs-r and type-r blocks?? also stamped onto gs-r heads, gs-r/type-r oil pans, etc..... ****** retard.
damn that pisses me off. "don't post unless you know what you are talkin about"
man, if you knew me... damn.... aghhh.... i've built and tuned a shitload of honda engines, in all different combinations, made awesome power on all of them. there's probably not a thing you could teach me about them. i'm sorry to sound stuck up or something like that, because i'm not, but damn. i'm glad your *** got stallowned. go put your misinformation back into your *** where it came from and sign back onto clubsi.com. ****** ricer
now i need a beer
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Re: (ShadyEH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShadyEH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^--- i built and tuned that engine
i wish i had seen beavis's reply to my post. i would have made him cry like a little biatch.... damn what a shitload of misinformation.
"theres no such thing as a P72 block" then why the f-uck is P72 stamped into gs-r and type-r blocks?? also stamped onto gs-r heads, gs-r/type-r oil pans, etc..... ****** retard.
damn that pisses me off. "don't post unless you know what you are talkin about"
man, if you knew me... damn.... aghhh.... i've built and tuned a shitload of honda engines, in all different combinations, made awesome power on all of them. there's probably not a thing you could teach me about them. i'm sorry to sound stuck up or something like that, because i'm not, but damn. i'm glad your *** got stallowned. go put your misinformation back into your *** where it came from and sign back onto clubsi.com. ****** ricer
now i need a beer </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha burned. that is one of my biggest things that **** me off, is when i know i am right. then some dumbfuck comes in and says i ''heard"" this or i ''think''. god damn mother ****** i dont hear or think i ''KNOW'' haha. sorry just had to rant.
i wish i had seen beavis's reply to my post. i would have made him cry like a little biatch.... damn what a shitload of misinformation.
"theres no such thing as a P72 block" then why the f-uck is P72 stamped into gs-r and type-r blocks?? also stamped onto gs-r heads, gs-r/type-r oil pans, etc..... ****** retard.
damn that pisses me off. "don't post unless you know what you are talkin about"
man, if you knew me... damn.... aghhh.... i've built and tuned a shitload of honda engines, in all different combinations, made awesome power on all of them. there's probably not a thing you could teach me about them. i'm sorry to sound stuck up or something like that, because i'm not, but damn. i'm glad your *** got stallowned. go put your misinformation back into your *** where it came from and sign back onto clubsi.com. ****** ricer
now i need a beer </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha burned. that is one of my biggest things that **** me off, is when i know i am right. then some dumbfuck comes in and says i ''heard"" this or i ''think''. god damn mother ****** i dont hear or think i ''KNOW'' haha. sorry just had to rant.
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Re: (ShadyEH2)
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and for future question's like this one, don't make a post about it on h-t, just ask your friend who is talkin about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Way to make the guy feel welcome. Thumbs up to you. You really got to love how many people think they are a moderator on H-T.
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Way to make the guy feel welcome. Thumbs up to you. You really got to love how many people think they are a moderator on H-T.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integtonx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> a basic sum up....
1) "gsr block" same as type R
2) b16 head same as type R
3) with type R internals/specs</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't forget the type R valve cover too
1) "gsr block" same as type R
2) b16 head same as type R
3) with type R internals/specs</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't forget the type R valve cover too