onyx00

The pedals are too far apart for me to even attempt a toe-heel. I realized this weekend that I need to start toe-heeling at the track. So what do you guys suggest as far as pedals go to help with this?

My feet are size 9 narrow. Obviously I was not meant to be a race car driver with narrow feet, but I need something just for those weekend track events.

Thanks!

pyromaster

i use the razo pedal covers. they have an extra lip on the brake and gas pedal so it makes it easy for us skinny feet people to reach. i've also heard you can bend the gas pedal in at an angle so it's closer to the brake if you feel like going that route

travis

I had pedal covers for a while that extended the sides of the gas pedal. I learned to heel-toe AFTER installing the covers. Recently I took the covers off to replace the covers with real pedals, and I drove around with stock pedals again for a while. No problems. It took a little adjustment, and I'm still not as smooth, but I think I could get there if given some time to adjust. My point is, don't stress over getting the perfect shape pedal that has huge lips on all sides to help with heel-toe. If you change your pedals, get something with good grip, a solid feel, and practice your technique. I have larger feet than you (10.5), for what it's worth.

GRM Scott

I also have some razo pedals, they're fairly inexpensive, secure to the stock pedals firmly, and make blipping the throttle very simple and comfortable. I use the right edge of my foot. some pics on my site.

citanest

To be honest with you, I am not a big fan of Aftermarket pedals either. I think all the RealTime type R racers just use stock pedals, why do I need aftermarket. However, I still bought the OMP and tried it out. I personally think that it DOES NOT HELP YOU to heel toe BETTER. I have to stress that. Heel toe needs practising, NOT AFTERMARKET PEDALS.... It may help to touch the throttle without rotation the foot AS MUCH!!!! BUT YOU WON'T HEEL TOE BETTER THAN BEFORE!!!!!! Another advantage is that the clutch grips A LOT BETTER THAN STOCK, so you won't slip as easy (ALTHOUGH I NEVER SLIPPED ONCE ON THE STOCK EITHER) So, for $30US, I say it's worth it. THE THROTTLE IS A PAIN TO INSTALL!!!! REMOVING THE RUBBERS AND DRILLING HOLES JUST MADE ME KEPT SWEARING!!!! I think you should give it a try, it's only $30 US. I personally can't justify to spend $150 for Mugen pedals. You are more buying the name, but aren't we all on certain things .....

GRM Scott

my foot can not hit the brake and the gas without bringing the pedals closer together...aftermarket pedals are the easy answer. If you can twist your leg so that you're actually blipping the throttle with your heel and hitting the brake with your toe, power to you...my legs are far too long for this

Dr Pooface

OMP 1000 series



Fit good. Feel good. Bolt on, no clips.

And install isn't that hard, really.

ITRbroham

The RAZO titanium pedals are OK but I wanna try the OMP pedals!

travis

At 6'1", here's my technique. My left foot is just about straight up and down on the clutch with my heel on the floor. My right heel is right next to my left heel (almost left of the brake pedal), and I actually brake with my heel. This leaves the whole front third of my foot to control the throttle, and it bends my leg in such a way as to keep my knee far away from the steering column, even as close as I sit to the wheel (very). As you can see, reaching between the pedals isn't a problem and doesn't require any extensions. However, keeping grip is always key, and any pedal that provides grip is in my book.

Edwin

Hmm.. $150 for Mugen OR
$50 OMP / Spacro pedals + titanium drill bit and plenty of swearing.

I'd pick Mugen because the fit is perfect, functional, and looks great!

Heel & toe can be accomplished with more ease than stock. Stock rubber covers are just plain ugly and wide apart.

ITRinEJ1

moooooooooooooooooogen

sticky stuff on the clutch n brake pedal helps quite a bit.

ALF

Pedals help greatly. It's insanely easy to heel-toe with pedals. As mentioned earlier, I can simply use the edge of my foot to blip the throttle...no heel required.

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Floyd

Sounds like you might make a good F1 driver. Have you seen the footwell in those things?

I'm thinking of picking up some of the Mugens. They might not be any more functional than the others, but I do like the fit and finish.

citanest

Mugen certainly is good, but I were to buy Mugen, I will still Drill onto the pedals instead of clamping onto the pedals. I think it's more rigit that way, so swearing will still happen. Let the fun begins

Dr Pooface

I don't know why all you guys think the pedal instal requires swearing. I thought it was rather easy.

Leo95SE

omg that sounds contortionist-like! ouch..

so, youve got one knee to control your radio with, and another to open and close your sunroof. damn its a good thing im short.

Edwin

Cause it's -10 degrees outside in Toronto and your burried in the salty driver side footwell of the car that hasn't been vacuumed in 2 weeks.

The fact of the matter aftermarket pedals can potentially improve driver control.

BABY NSX

travis

Naw, maybe it sounded bad in my post, but it's very comfortable. Maybe a pic or a video would help. The key is to get as much of your foot on each pedal, because you don't want anything slipping at speed. Contrary to popular belief, it takes some time to "blip" the throttle. It's not like you can just quickly stab at it and you're instantly there (unless you have a very light flywheel, etc.). So having a good part of my foot on the throttle allows me to modulate where I want it. I'm so used to it now, I regularly brake that way, even if I'm not going to touch the throttle. Habbits are good, when they're good habbits

Cozmo Kraemer

[/QUOTE]A 6'1", here's my technique. My left foot is just about straight up and down on the clutch with my heel on the floor. My right heel is right next to my left heel (almost left of the brake pedal), and I actually brake with my heel[/QUOTE]

I am 6'2'' and I have a size 13 shoe, heel toeing in the normal sense has been very difficult for me. I was thinking about this very technique myself, it is good to hear that someone has tried it with positive results. I was thinking that it would be much easier to modulate the brake pedal with the heel and use the toe to blip the throttle.

travis

Come down next weekend for the Feb event, and I'll show both of ya

disordeR

I think you need to stretch before you drive your car or something. I wear size 9-9.5 shoes and my feet are quite narrow. I have no problem heel and toing.. just took some practice and time. Go out and try downshifting using the heel and toe technique. You'll get it

Chris

No, they dont (anymore). The seats are so far back now, to aid in weight balance, that they use race pedals mounted on the floor.

Blue Liquid

I can't hit the brake with my toe and blip the gas with my heel because my foot won't bend that way. I wind up over-aplying brake pressure and not enough gas, I guess because the gas pedal is too low while the brake pedal is higher. So, I apply brake with the left 2/3 of my foot while 'rolling' my foot to blip the gas with the remaining 1/3 at the peak of my braking point, usually just before entering the turn. Works great.

Renegade

someone has to play the rookie.
What is Toe-Heel?


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