Oil cooler+filter relocation kit Pros&cons
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I have a question about oil cooler installs regarding the stock oil cooler. Is everyone just getting a sandwich plate and saying the stock cooler is rubbish? Of have people tried to add both? Not sure there is room for that, or is there another way to tap for lines? With a thermostat even a lightly tracked R in a hot climate I think would help out with longevity. When it's 90 degrees out, anything in direct sun here is easily around 100 degrees. Pavement I'd say another 20 degrees over ambient. Summer time is brutal!
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I am actualy amazed that everyone thinks they come with oem oil coolers! No itr dc2 comes with an oil cooler. Hence why i put one on. I did a track day with oem rad and no oil cooler and 4 laps was my limit. I added a huge alloy enduro rad and that was amazing. Temps where stable alllll day! I then added the oil cooler for extra longevity. Just taking the oil away from the heat source does an amazing job! I have a stack oil and temp gauge and these will show nothing but stability :D.
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I am actualy amazed that everyone thinks they come with oem oil coolers! No itr dc2 comes with an oil cooler. Hence why i put one on. I did a track day with oem rad and no oil cooler and 4 laps was my limit. I added a huge alloy enduro rad and that was amazing. Temps where stable alllll day! I then added the oil cooler for extra longevity. Just taking the oil away from the heat source does an amazing job! I have a stack oil and temp gauge and these will show nothing but stability :D.
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Sounds like headgasket failure hahaa! Ahh is that what you where on about, i didnt think you guys would of called that an oil cooler, rather an engine cooler as the coolant circulates the block and passes through. Dont get me wrong its great but imho that is a million miles away from a proper oil cooler set up like i thought we where on about. I found with the stock rad, i was just asking it to do far too much.
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I've also helped a number of people piece out and install similar and identical setups and have not had a single failure in about 7-8 cars using these components and routing
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Yep, it's been about 6 years and about 70k track and hwy miles and no issues. I keep a close eye on the lines and fittings and have pulled it off to clean a couple times. I'll probably replace the lines pretty soon, but they have no signs of wear really. I took my time and made sure they were clear of any hazards or stress points.
I've also helped a number of people piece out and install similar and identical setups and have not had a single failure in about 7-8 cars using these components and routing
I've also helped a number of people piece out and install similar and identical setups and have not had a single failure in about 7-8 cars using these components and routing
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no. I originally planned to, but didn't because of costs. Unless it's a track/warm-weather only car you really need a thermostat isolating the filter from the cooler which added about $100-150 to the total cost, with additional fittings and everything.
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Well im in ATL, GA and it gets hot as hell during the middle of the year so im still 50/50 on buying the thermostat. Arent you running the thermostat?
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It got me thinking about putting an oil cooler on again after seeing the beautiful setup on my friends S15 Silvia Spec R. I would definitely do a thermostat unless it is a dedicated track car where you would monitor your oil temps and doing a warm up before really racing hard with it. What would really be the benefit to an oil filter relocation? It is as simple as getting under the car or even leaning over the side to change it.
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[QUOTE=FlewByU352;46844293]It got me thinking about putting an oil cooler on again after seeing the beautiful setup on my friends S15 Silvia Spec R. I would definitely do a thermostat unless it is a dedicated track car where you would monitor your oil temps and doing a warm up before really racing hard with it. What would really be the benefit to an oil filter relocation? It is as simple as getting under the car or even leaning over the side to change it.[/QUOT
Im still trying to find out the positives&negatives of having the filter relocation kit wit an oil cooler because i already have the kit
Im still trying to find out the positives&negatives of having the filter relocation kit wit an oil cooler because i already have the kit
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I ditched the thermostat'd Mocal sandwich plate for a Canton Racing one that I ported. I didn't like that all of the oil have to go through a hole 3/4 the size of the main oil gallery.
With a Setrab 19 row, the oil got to temp in the summer, but not in the winter. So I blocked the cooler and it got a little hotter.
I'm back to running the OEM oil warmer since the car's turbocharged now. I may put the oil cooler back on if I see a need. The oil temp gauge is still on the car.
EDIT: I also had the OEM block heater that kept the temp at 160 deg F.
With a Setrab 19 row, the oil got to temp in the summer, but not in the winter. So I blocked the cooler and it got a little hotter.
I'm back to running the OEM oil warmer since the car's turbocharged now. I may put the oil cooler back on if I see a need. The oil temp gauge is still on the car.
EDIT: I also had the OEM block heater that kept the temp at 160 deg F.
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Nice thread - grammar does make a difference. The ability to communicate effectively is a skill all humans should have.
My ITR likes to run 195 on nice days, but on the freeway it etches toward 205, and up hills it likes 220. On a hot summer day it my oil will see 230 degrees easily. I'd like to regulate the temp a little better.
Thanks for the advise everyone
My ITR likes to run 195 on nice days, but on the freeway it etches toward 205, and up hills it likes 220. On a hot summer day it my oil will see 230 degrees easily. I'd like to regulate the temp a little better.
Thanks for the advise everyone
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Fellas, last time I checked, the heat doesn't care what your track experience is. I do understand the thought process in saying different, but some newbs are good/fast and this guy is boosted. Boost/track/heat often do not mix though.
Baffles are a good idea and will not hurt, but once you go R-comps it is a must.
Erik, I saw a Spoon oil cooler. The cooler itself was 4-6" high and what looked to be about as wide as the opening in the bumper. Mocal sells a cooler with similar dimensions IIRC. Do you think it would allow more fresh air to pass thru to the radiator? This size cooler may be a good option for somebody with an intercooler/condensor/radiator.
Baffles are a good idea and will not hurt, but once you go R-comps it is a must.
Erik, I saw a Spoon oil cooler. The cooler itself was 4-6" high and what looked to be about as wide as the opening in the bumper. Mocal sells a cooler with similar dimensions IIRC. Do you think it would allow more fresh air to pass thru to the radiator? This size cooler may be a good option for somebody with an intercooler/condensor/radiator.
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Well thanks for the advice fellas, you guys make this site worth checking out...hope to see you at this years expo...as for the people who were talking rude over the internet i'll definately be looking for ya"ll(Root of all evil, Todd00, 01-0720, Ennis-D)
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Just some friendly advice for the future.
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Its just an oil filter relocation kit. I originally bought a sandwich plate, but the an fittings came in contact with the water pipe on the backside of the block. I started thinking, If I'm going to move all the oil to the front to the cooler, I might as well make the filter up in the front too.
Hopes someday I might invest in a dry sump :-)
Hopes someday I might invest in a dry sump :-)