losing oil like crazy
11-02-2007, 09:03 AM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You can add a lot of oil for a lot less money...
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Yep!
But to answer your earlier question, I just had my local dealer do this job.
The re-ring portion is 26 hours at whatever their labor rate is, plus parts.
Parts will vary depending on what you need.
I spent about 2000$ total on parts, but that included new motor mounts, and some unrelated parts, I would guess its about 1500$ in parts for the re-ring alone.
So to get Acura to do it, your cost should be around 4-5000$.
You can add a lot of oil for a lot less money...
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Yep!
But to answer your earlier question, I just had my local dealer do this job.
The re-ring portion is 26 hours at whatever their labor rate is, plus parts.
Parts will vary depending on what you need.
I spent about 2000$ total on parts, but that included new motor mounts, and some unrelated parts, I would guess its about 1500$ in parts for the re-ring alone.
So to get Acura to do it, your cost should be around 4-5000$.
11-02-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (andyt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andyt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yep!
But to answer your earlier question, I just had my local dealer do this job.
The re-ring portion is 26 hours at whatever their labor rate is, plus parts.
Parts will vary depending on what you need.
I spent about 2000$ total on parts, but that included new motor mounts, and some unrelated parts, I would guess its about 1500$ in parts for the re-ring alone.
So to get Acura to do it, your cost should be around 4-5000$.
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For these prices I would call Len. You can have a brand new bottom end at your door for less, and still be able to sell your old block for $500 plus. I know this may fall under "extensive work" but I feel that the install, price of new block, and the sell of the old block will keep you well below the 4-5k.
Yep!
But to answer your earlier question, I just had my local dealer do this job.
The re-ring portion is 26 hours at whatever their labor rate is, plus parts.
Parts will vary depending on what you need.
I spent about 2000$ total on parts, but that included new motor mounts, and some unrelated parts, I would guess its about 1500$ in parts for the re-ring alone.
So to get Acura to do it, your cost should be around 4-5000$.
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For these prices I would call Len. You can have a brand new bottom end at your door for less, and still be able to sell your old block for $500 plus. I know this may fall under "extensive work" but I feel that the install, price of new block, and the sell of the old block will keep you well below the 4-5k.
11-02-2007, 01:59 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (Ed 341)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ed 341 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did that for a couple years. I probably spent close to 3k in oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Huh? $3K is 600 quarts of Mobil 1, or 2500 quarts of conventional oil.
Huh? $3K is 600 quarts of Mobil 1, or 2500 quarts of conventional oil.
11-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (totsie7944)
Sorry about the problems Ash, obviously you know what you need to do now.
About warming your cars up, just letting it go through it's heat cycle naturally is good enough.
About warming your cars up, just letting it go through it's heat cycle naturally is good enough.
11-02-2007, 02:20 PM
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Yeah I burn oil like a ****. Since I switched to Castrol it hasn't been so bad, but I still burn more than any other car I own. I've learned to just live with it till I get around to the rebuild. 
11-02-2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (JjuuN R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JjuuN R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry about the problems Ash, obviously you know what you need to do now.
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what... get out the game while i still can?! hahahh
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what... get out the game while i still can?! hahahh
11-02-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (andyt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by andyt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yep!
But to answer your earlier question, I just had my local dealer do this job.
The re-ring portion is 26 hours at whatever their labor rate is, plus parts.
Parts will vary depending on what you need.
I spent about 2000$ total on parts, but that included new motor mounts, and some unrelated parts, I would guess its about 1500$ in parts for the re-ring alone.
So to get Acura to do it, your cost should be around 4-5000$.
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that is about the price of a new long block from len.
Yep!
But to answer your earlier question, I just had my local dealer do this job.
The re-ring portion is 26 hours at whatever their labor rate is, plus parts.
Parts will vary depending on what you need.
I spent about 2000$ total on parts, but that included new motor mounts, and some unrelated parts, I would guess its about 1500$ in parts for the re-ring alone.
So to get Acura to do it, your cost should be around 4-5000$.
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that is about the price of a new long block from len.
11-04-2007, 08:59 AM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (arren123)
i thought in some cases when you see the black chit on the bumper it was from either not running a cat or running a tad bit on the rich side. reason being i have a JDM motor with less than 18000 kms on it and it gives a little black chit on the bumper but that is when i horse beat the chit out of it. other than that it is very negligible. in fact when i leaned the FP down it was not even evident any more. thats just me .02 cents
other than that it is very negligible. in fact when i leaned the FP down it was not even evident any more. thats just me .02 cents
11-04-2007, 02:36 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (coolhandluke)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coolhandluke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For these prices I would call Len. You can have a brand new bottom end at your door for less, and still be able to sell your old block for $500 plus. I know this may fall under "extensive work" but I feel that the install, price of new block, and the sell of the old block will keep you well below the 4-5k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is what I did (except through a personal friend's offer to help). Old block is waiting for surgery. 
For these prices I would call Len. You can have a brand new bottom end at your door for less, and still be able to sell your old block for $500 plus. I know this may fall under "extensive work" but I feel that the install, price of new block, and the sell of the old block will keep you well below the 4-5k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is what I did (except through a personal friend's offer to help). Old block is waiting for surgery.
11-04-2007, 06:05 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (R-box)
Even though I don't have an R...my stock b16a2 in my Si burns a lot of oil too. About a quart every 500-700 miles if I don't hit VTEC. My compression is good across all 4 cylinders...about 200ish PSI.
I also get black soot all over my back bumper and in the exhaust.
My only guess is that my valve seals are shot...I do keep a quart of oil in my car in case I feel the need to hit VTAKKK
I also get black soot all over my back bumper and in the exhaust.
My only guess is that my valve seals are shot...I do keep a quart of oil in my car in case I feel the need to hit VTAKKK
11-04-2007, 08:18 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (coolhandluke)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coolhandluke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For these prices I would call Len. You can have a brand new bottom end at your door for less, and still be able to sell your old block for $500 plus. I know this may fall under "extensive work" but I feel that the install, price of new block, and the sell of the old block will keep you well below the 4-5k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
But! - on an otherwise stock car, there is (or will soon be) a significant value in having matching numbers. If I were in this situation I would not consider putting in a new block if I could avoid it. In a few years the value of the car could vary by several thousand dollars on this decision.
For these prices I would call Len. You can have a brand new bottom end at your door for less, and still be able to sell your old block for $500 plus. I know this may fall under "extensive work" but I feel that the install, price of new block, and the sell of the old block will keep you well below the 4-5k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
But! - on an otherwise stock car, there is (or will soon be) a significant value in having matching numbers. If I were in this situation I would not consider putting in a new block if I could avoid it. In a few years the value of the car could vary by several thousand dollars on this decision.
11-04-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (Ford Prefect)
Its always the rings. b16a, b18c1, b18c5 doesnt matter. I have re-ringed and rebuilt so many for oil burning. Valve seals will puff on a first startup and neither them or rings will show up as failed from a compression and leakdown test. Honda rings don't last forever, the cyl walls also go out of round on these motors after so many years/heat cycles.
11-05-2007, 04:13 AM
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I'm curious ... can you have perfectly even compression on all 4 cyls and still have bad rings ?? In my case, I was burning A LOT of oil but I had 295psi even on all 4 slugs ... Does anyone know ??
11-05-2007, 07:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iperez »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm curious ... can you have perfectly even compression on all 4 cyls and still have bad rings ?? In my case, I was burning A LOT of oil but I had 295psi even on all 4 slugs ... Does anyone know ??</TD></TR></TABLE>
compression rings are fine, oil control rings are in bad shape
thats my current situation
compression rings are fine, oil control rings are in bad shape
thats my current situation
11-05-2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: (Casey)
im having the same issue with my 96 itr motor. Im not burning that much oil but ive been told when i hit vtec i get this dark cloud of smoke out the pipe. Are there any better rings out there or should i go with oem parts?
11-05-2007, 05:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nastyek9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im having the same issue with my 96 itr motor. Im not burning that much oil but ive been told when i hit vtec i get this dark cloud of smoke out the pipe. Are there any better rings out there or should i go with oem parts?</TD></TR></TABLE>
if its dark like black you could be running rich just wasting fuel.
if its dark like black you could be running rich just wasting fuel.
11-06-2007, 12:08 AM
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Re: losing oil like crazy (Ford Prefect)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ford Prefect »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But! - on an otherwise stock car, there is (or will soon be) a significant value in having matching numbers. If I were in this situation I would not consider putting in a new block if I could avoid it. In a few years the value of the car could vary by several thousand dollars on this decision.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is why I kept my old block for later.
But! - on an otherwise stock car, there is (or will soon be) a significant value in having matching numbers. If I were in this situation I would not consider putting in a new block if I could avoid it. In a few years the value of the car could vary by several thousand dollars on this decision.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is why I kept my old block for later.
11-06-2007, 03:52 AM
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Those of you battling oil consumption should give this thread a quick skim.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2136977
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2136977