Tight R

i think you have me confused here..

i did not swap non hid parts with hid parts.
i meant i swapped non hid left and right side headlight parts with eachother
same with hid parts with each other.

the parts are 100 percent the same.

honda would not have stanley make left hand drive and right hand drive headlights. its too costly as the car markets (cdm, jdm, usdm, edm, etc..) have all sorts of headlights combo.

there is ABSOLUTELY nothing different except for the way they are aimed when it comes to headlights wether they are non hid or hid.

i have opened up about 5 pairs of SIR-G, 4 pairs of type r NON hid and 2 pairs of HID type r headlights.

the SIR-G and TYPE R NON HID are exactly the same except for the blackhousing (down to every single mini screw).

the HID version i noticed (other then the obvious such as the lens that has a circle around the projector and the mounts for the ballast) the difference in the internals where the bulbs go in the projector and the projector itself. BUT THEY ARE STILL exactly the same left side to the right side MINUS the aim angle.

Tight R

to answer the OP's question with the knowledge i have....

OEM headlights that were MADE for HID will be superior then any HALOGEN headlight.
reasons being several things.....ie. projector vs no projector, glare guard vs no glare guard, the trim around the bilb is always designed in such a way the hid will not cause glare that is being deflected from the guard.

installing an hid kit into a halogen intended headlight housing without a retro fit will cause the light to be dispersed in every angle hence reducing visibility (range wise) but have a brighter near sight. never mind the on comming traffic having a headache.


as for type r non hid having a hid kit.
its still better then a non projected headlight.
however two things.
the outter clear lens will have light deflected on two or three lines since the projectors has lines crossing it, the light will not have a cut off as in the pics above.

ballinthavx

i never would have thought what i thought was a simple question would bring about this much conversation lol. All of this **** is confusing me maybe i'm just simple minded or i'm just not reading it right. can somebody make this black and white for me please lol

pogeeboy27

iTrader: (3)

Check out hidplanet.com. Lots of info there.

Jon D

You're really confusing good info with info that has no regard to what we were discussing here. Your responses are confusing. Never did i state the headlights were different physically. The only difference is the projector used, which i've already provided an explanation before and the cut-off shields are opposite of what cut-off shields look like for roads in the US. The JDM cut-off shields have a step up and to the left vs USDM cut-off shields which have a step up and to the right (see picture ref on prev page).

Bottom line....projectors found in HID Integra headlights are different than Non-HID Integra headlights.

Jon D

I had this under control. I tried to reply in simplistic terms so there would be no confusion as to the differences.

Again, bottom line.........retrofitting will trump any off the shelf kit you purchase. JDM HID headlights do not meet the standards of what is considered safe. Yes, tons of people use them, however their projectors disperse light opposite of what they need to be and blind oncoming traffic.

Please PM me if you have additional questions. I've been answering tons since this thread was started.

Tight R

the way you explained it in previous post it sounds like your saying that if you were to align a jdm hid headlight or any jdm headlight for that matter (integra) that it would never be right.

to which i am saying

yes it will be.

its very simple really.

anyways at the end of the day and hopefully this post things are simple.

GO JDM HID (OEM)
or
GO JDM RETROFIT

for best light output.

anyother way is not going to be right.

sheekdude

iTrader: (1)

Great info guys, but let me also add.

I had the pleasure of meeting with Bjorn last weekend for some testing of different bulbs, headlights and projectors looking for the best light out put and came with these interesting facts.

For the best light out put for jdm fronted cars, nothing is better that the OEM 98+ HID JDM HEADLIGHTS. Period.

Bjorn actually retro-fitted a set of non-hid jdm headlights with tsx projectors (4300 and 5000k bulbs were tested) and the light out put was no where close. The beam pattern was better but not the actual light out put.

He explained that the jdm headlights, the way its curved or the plastic material used for the lens did not reflect the full quality of the projectors... so using tsx, tl or s2000 projectors wouldn't yeild the wonderful light output desired by myself and so many others.

The usdm headlights, dc2 integra or ek civic has the better lens that gives that clear out put.

I hope this clears up what the op was asking.

PaulMc

iTrader: (1)

That's very true. I hate driving infront of my buddy when he's driving his JDM ITR, he lights up the entire inside of my car and blinds me from my sideview mirrors, but his visibility is awesome. You're saying retrofitting will create the same range/visibility but is considered more safe then the stock JDM ITR?

Cut me a break, I'm still learning about all this. Trying to make sure my money goes to the right things.

jr4000watts

Hey guy i had a quick question, is there a turn screw or screw of somewhat i could move to adjust the cut off line? my passenger side is shooting way to high