Cyberorth

Yup. I have a Suzuka Blue 2002 S2000

Well technically I still have the ITR too but now the spot light is on the new baby. Too bad I won't be able to get a good feel for the S2k until broken in.

I am now a very serious seller of my ITR. Buyers wanted.

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

Awwwww. At least you got something worthy of an upgrade.

Cyberorth

Thats very nice of you, but I consider the s2k a mere equal to the ITR in a very unique way. ITR's only upgrade is NSX.

ITR 2K

S2K aren't really all that, but it's still a very nice car. BTW, I have a friend that's searching for a CW ITR. How many miles are on it, how much you want, and where are you located?

itr0032

I love that color

Black SVT

The ITR's ONLY upgrade is the NSX?I believe you are very wrong on that one.I can think of lots of cars that would be a step up.

Dr Pooface

I think he ment within the Honda line.

BryanSprinkel

It’s a step up in money spent, but as far as tracking... I guess it would depend on the driver. The NSX doesn’t impress me at all.

The S2K is an awesome track car right off the show room floor!

Bryan

Ideal R

NSX doesn't impress you at all and S2K is a track car right off the showroom?
what are you talking about?

onyx00

Baaah, S2000

Now you can go to Starbucks and hang out with all the other S2000 owners...j/k

Congrats. on the new car

yoshi234

congrats bobby!!

YodaIsGod

err...wish i can buy your ITR

b00st-0wnz

Probably about how myself and most other people pass NSX's on the track all the time.. and I just have a wittle slow **** gs-r.

Ideal R

You can always heavily mod your car to pass Ferrari or Porache on the track
It does not mean the car is not capble
Also on a track, driver is a bigger factor than the car itself (not like a geo vs F50 of course)
And if you can pass NSX, I don't see any reason why you can't pass S2K

P.S.: On one of the BM video I got, a stock ITR passes S2K on a track. In fact, the ITR beat the S2K badly.

b00st-0wnz

Yep. Shocks, springs.. and intake (at the time) is HEAVILY MODIFIED for sure! Good point, I'm such a moron for forgetting that.

(BTW, not all NSX's that are passed are stock either. There is only one that I've NEVER been able to pass, and that's Chin's supercharged one).

S2k"s are harder to chase down. I've passed one and was going to pass the other but he called it a day and went it. And I'm not even racing, but he's not either sooooo...

(oh yeah, my car had R compounds too, not 100% if all those nsx's did or not)

SoCal ITR

Congratulations! Is that the light, metallic blue they had at the car show? And doesn't it only come in a blue interior too? If it's the same color, it's the best looking color yet for the S2K

Cyberorth

When the ITR came out, it was referred to as the 'baby NSX.' That is what I meant when I said that NSX is the only substitute

Of course there are many step-ups to the ITR, but that's a very personal issue. I like it because in it's time it had the highest specific output and the best fwd handling capabilities. Because of it being the industry's best for what it was (is).

I have always told myself that I was very lucky to have the best all around car that I could possibly have for the time.

I have and will always admire the ITR no matter what I drive. I shall miss it.

I suppose we're all Honda people and don't care about any other brands, right?

Cyberorth

And thanx everyone or your comments, now let's help me sell some cars!

96 SOHC VTEC

Nice car. I like the S2000 but it is way too small for me. I can barely fit in the thing.

davidnyc

It is hard to judge car capability at track days. Crashing $60K-$90K worth of automobile can really ruin your day ! They may not be driving the car at the limit.

Now, all out bang-door racing, that is another story. If you pass a NSX in this situation, very good job (But, I think that since an NSX is somewhat older technology, it is easier to modify a newer car to handle better than a NSX)


[Modified by davidnyc, 9:57 AM 1/25/2002]


[Modified by davidnyc, 9:59 AM 1/25/2002]

BryanSprinkel

I've been to many track events, as well as drag races. I have YET to see an NSK that has impressed me. Maybe you have? I was just stating my point. I am sorry if it happens to be different from your own. Yes I do realize that when tracing the car its all about the driver.

My comment on the S2K being a great track car right off the showroom floor, from what I’ve seen they do REALLY well. Maybe the owners are “stupid” for tracing it with out a "real" roll bar. I guess I should have said “ The S2K does really well on the track in stock trim”... Im not a big fan of the S2K either, but it is a fun car to drive, and seems to be really fun to track.

For the money spent the NSX does NOT impress me at all.

Bryan

Ideal R

If you say NSX is over-priced, I won't disagree.
If you say NSX is not the "bang for the buck" like ITR, I won't disagree
If you say for the money, ITR is a better choice than NSX, I won't disagree either

But saying you can pass a NSX on the track with an ITR only have mod suspension and intake, there are only 2 possibilities:
1) The driver of NSX is not pushing to the limit;
2) The driver in the NSX is incapable.
I trust what you said, but I think it is definitely not because your ITR is faster than those NSX. I am more leaning towards you are a much better driver and the NSX drivers are conservative.

For fact:
--- 280hp vs 200hp (let me assume your intake worth 5hp which should be overestimated)
--- 3.5L vs 1.8L (torque...)
--- MR setup vs FF setup
--- Weight is not too much heavier in NSX
--- NSX has higher skipad # than ITR
--- larger brake in NSX
Step back and see NSX is clearly coming out top.

Peace


[Modified by ITR #01-1203, 1:34 PM 1/25/2002]

b00st-0wnz

I don't drive my car at the limit either But I agree. On a lapping day, you wont usually be driving 10/10ths. But when it's hosted by a NSX club, I would assume a few of them could drive

A g3 integra is basically a 92-95 civic.. so they aren't that different technology wise.. in fact I'd suspect the g3 teg is older technology than a nsx.

b00st-0wnz

I only have a GS-R remember. At the time, I dynoed at 152.1hp and 112ft-lbs of torque.

Adam (rs) passes NSXs on Sebring with his ITR with just an intake as well. Hell every remotely experienced ITR owner I've seen on the track beats NSXs. NSXs are REALLY NOT very impressive. Sorry, but they aren't. They are pretty though.

Ideal R

Agree, I can't justisfy 140K CAD spend on a japanese car either.

And I do think S2K is good, always my dream car.
But sorry, I will never agree S2K is faster than NSX. We are talking about pure performance, not performance per dollar.