RPM

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I do have documentation signed by HNA stating it was a press vehicle given to Comptech for performance part development. I believe I posted a picture of one of these documents at the beginning of the thread.

trapstar305

sweeeeeeeeeettttttttttt

Dr. DC2

just to throw salt in the game... i would take this "press" tpye r and make it one nasty biatch! its like the rarest type r in the world and it doesnt have a b18c5! K swap it or b18c5 it! thats what i would do. but if you leave it the way it is thats pretty awesome either way!

Tyrant_007

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I've been curious if it wasn't the same car as the 1997 press car: http://www.integratyper.org/specs/press/us_97.htm

skateboard_ej8

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Good read.

srt4mike

It would be very foolish to modify this car. This is the kind of car that is something historical and should be kept exactly as is. I know there is a huge debate about this car in the ITR world about its legitimacy/history/origin/blah blah blah, but I think we can all agree that this car needs to remain as is in order to retain its maximum value. It would be another thing all together if you could actually find the original B18C5 that was in it (which is probably in the engine bay of a rusted out CRX with half the original components) . . . AND had documentation to prove this somehow. Now considering it would be more likely to start a successful Dodo egg hatchery than to complete the aforementioned feat . . . I'd say it needs to stay untouched.

Dave-ROR

Technically it's already been modified thanks to Comptech. It's definately a unique car/find, but the value has already been cut in half at least because of comptech (IE, it's value is as an original pre-production car that survived the crusher, comptech removed the original part of that description). Now I also think it would be a mistake to modify it at this point, but it won't really kill it's value much, if any. Heck, part of it's paperwork trail helps destroy the value unfortunately. If Comptech wouldn't have touched it, and Honda just found it years later and sold it off, it would be worth quite a bit more IMO.

John M

The car never had a b18c5 people! it has the vin matching b18b1 in it.

srt4mike

If it had stayed exactly as it originally was, yes it would be worth much more. I guess I am just looking at if from where it stands right now. Comptech unfortunately did their thing, and despite them greatly killing the value, modding it now would definitely ruin any remaining value (whatever that may be).




So are we going off the assumption this guy was lying? I'm not saying we should assume either way, but he seems to have some inside knowledge about the car. I know he hasn't posted any hard factual evidence. Also, I know he just a dude with 5 posts who wants to "help out" the OP. AND this is the internet, so damn near everything that that seems monumental is BS. I understand we can't jump to conclusions, and it was my mistake to assume it had the B18C5 in it for sure. I hadn't checked the thread in a long time, so I reread every post to get my info straight again. It just sucks that there is such a lack of concrete evidence. If we go by what we know, it would be that the car SHOULD have originally had the LS motor in it. But with this kind of info coming out (despite its questionable validity), and the rest of the history being so murky, it's hard to really come to any specific conclusion about the original motor without hearing more. We simply need actual concrete evidence from this Rod guy, Acura, and at least a few of the others involved. Unfortunately, this will probably never happen . . . and hell concrete evidence probably doesn't exist (that we can get our hands on at least). Acura knows the most and they aren't going to divulge anything. No sense in shelling out info about some car that Comptech was given to play with that is supposed to be crushed.

pogeeboy27

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Hopefully 50 years from now Honda of NA will come clean.

RPM

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Here is an interesting tidbit. The car has an ITR ECU in it. I haven't had a chance to pull the side panel to inspect it yet. I was told it had the ECU by the former owner and I do believe him as it runs pretty rough with the LS motor. This may be a clue as to what was previously in the engine bay.....

srt4mike

Do you have any idea what happened to Rod? Is he available for any more info?

Dr. DC2

I say you boost the **** out of it because its an LS hahaha

yea i own a 97 type r... i am no type r purist! leaving one stock is a wasted chassis IMO

RPM

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I have a second ITR that i'm boosting. This one is staying as is.

Dr. DC2

thats cool... i wish i had 2 ITR's
JDM CW 98 spec and a JDM VS db8 98 spec for DD would be nice

rokwilder1

any way to find out what the original vin that they replaced to match the replacement ls engine vin was. I understand that the orginal b18c5 was one of the first non-serialized engines but what about the original vin that rod stated was replaced?

blazedcivicr

this is a very nice car the only sad part is to have read all the pages in this thread and realizing that it is just and rs model with some itr goodies

Mires

Well its been a interesting read. If the documentation is there than its an unique piece of ITR history. If I was the owner I wouldn't mod it. Not because of the value but because of the interesting story which some people may not care about.

If this car had the non serialized C5 engine the tone here would be a little different IMO but maybe not. If the brake system really was developed on this car for the RTR program than it might add more value than the story itself but value is all in the eye of the beholder.

Either way I still think its cool.

DrZFiNeSt

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Awesome find with this R.Only true Honda enthusiasts see the value in this car

nastyARE

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what the car really needs is a brand new fd2 k20a from opak, and the foglights taken off

DrZFiNeSt

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Yea I was wondering what is up with those fogs?

timmybilt

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i have a feeling that all this hate is a few guys who are jealous that their cars dont have the kind of history this type "Rs"...lol has. the history of MOST R's goes something like this: purchased, beat on, molsted, stolen, stripped, re-built never the same, tracked and beat some more..... and im just jealous most of you guys own itr's period.

i wish i owned a car with this kind history, its linked to a caR (itr) that has such a significant place in honda/import history.

cool find to the op, how cool would it be to see this car at barret-jackson in 25 years and it sell for a ridiculous amount of cash like some of the domestic cars go for with historical significance. if it happens and h-t is still around, im going to bump this thread back from the dead. lol

-Tim

jdmeg6118

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Well said!

jspecwhore

great find

DCRB

hmmmmmmmm this is a very unique car! personally, if i owned it, being that it IS already modified, i'd finish it off with a fresh b18c5 and a new lsd trans strait from honda. the worst, imo, that could happen is the value would stay the same. yes, it is just an rs chasis. but why not keep the theme going? just my two cents.